When is your jag classic?
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When is your jag classic?
In 2011 when I first browsed this forum, the XJ 40 (until 94 ) was in the classic section. Now nearly 3 years on the X 300 / X 305 (95 until 97 ) are still in the modern section. As the X 300, 305 and 308 are all based on the XJ 40 what is the criteria to be classic? It cant be age otherwise the 300/305 s would have moved, likewise a straight 6 or vee 12 cant be the cut off. Does the V8 put the X 308 in the modern era? Or does the steel body keep it out, and the modern era start with the X 350 / X 358 ? OR none of the above ?
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A question for the ages.
I think the recent reorganizing on these pages was simply the result of someone requesting or suggesting it, on the basis that the XJ220 was in the classic section so anything older than it must be a classic as well.
<shrug>
In the world of collectible/classic/special interest cars age alone isn't generally used to define a classic but...'whatever'. Nobody ever agrees on what defines a classic so one standard is as good as the other, especially in this setting
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Doug: indeed.
Although I think it was Graham that put forward a definition-of-sorts that I had never heard before in another thread on this topic. A classic is simply a car that went into production before you were of age to drive it. Or something like that. Naturally, that's going to different for everyone; and it helps explain why everybody has their own opinion.
Scott
Although I think it was Graham that put forward a definition-of-sorts that I had never heard before in another thread on this topic. A classic is simply a car that went into production before you were of age to drive it. Or something like that. Naturally, that's going to different for everyone; and it helps explain why everybody has their own opinion.
Scott
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In 2011 when I first browsed this forum, the XJ 40 (until 94 ) was in the classic section. Now nearly 3 years on the X 300 / X 305 (95 until 97 ) are still in the modern section. As the X 300, 305 and 308 are all based on the XJ 40 what is the criteria to be classic? It cant be age otherwise the 300/305 s would have moved, likewise a straight 6 or vee 12 cant be the cut off. Does the V8 put the X 308 in the modern era? Or does the steel body keep it out, and the modern era start with the X 350 / X 358 ? OR none of the above ?
Actually, until this month, the XJ40 was in the Modern section of this forum.... When it was moved to the classic section a week or two ago I thought it was missing for a couple of days before I found it.
That said, my opinion is that many Jaguar models have become classics the day they were introduced: XK120, E-type, Mk II and XJ6... For other models it may take a few years, but most of them become classics eventually.
In Tennessee, for licensing purposes a car becomes "classic" at 25 years of age, but as we all know, not every classic is a classic.
Cheers,
Don
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Doug: indeed.
Although I think it was Graham that put forward a definition-of-sorts that I had never heard before in another thread on this topic. A classic is simply a car that went into production before you were of age to drive it. Or something like that. Naturally, that's going to different for everyone; and it helps explain why everybody has their own opinion.
Scott
Although I think it was Graham that put forward a definition-of-sorts that I had never heard before in another thread on this topic. A classic is simply a car that went into production before you were of age to drive it. Or something like that. Naturally, that's going to different for everyone; and it helps explain why everybody has their own opinion.
Scott
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Hi Andrew,
Actually, until this month, the XJ40 was in the Modern section of this forum.... When it was moved to the classic section a week or two ago I thought it was missing for a couple of days before I found it.
That said, my opinion is that many Jaguar models have become classics the day they were introduced: XK120, E-type, Mk II and XJ6... For other models it may take a few years, but most of them become classics eventually.
In Tennessee, for licensing purposes a car becomes "classic" at 25 years of age, but as we all know, not every classic is a classic.
Cheers,
Don
Actually, until this month, the XJ40 was in the Modern section of this forum.... When it was moved to the classic section a week or two ago I thought it was missing for a couple of days before I found it.
That said, my opinion is that many Jaguar models have become classics the day they were introduced: XK120, E-type, Mk II and XJ6... For other models it may take a few years, but most of them become classics eventually.
In Tennessee, for licensing purposes a car becomes "classic" at 25 years of age, but as we all know, not every classic is a classic.
Cheers,
Don
My mistake, thought the XJ 40 had been there all the time. Oh well that's another bit of me that isn't working properly ( my memory ), get them to have a look at that as well, as im at the hospital today for a go on the treadmill and ECG. Will then know how my car feels hooked up to diagnostics on the rolling road. LOL. If only it was as simple as a hard reboot !
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Oh well that's another bit of me that isn't working properly ( my memory ), get them to have a look at that as well, as im at the hospital today for a go on the treadmill and ECG. Will then know how my car feels hooked up to diagnostics on the rolling road. LOL. If only it was as simple as a hard reboot !
Prayers that all will be well.
Blessings,
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The 308 is deemed a 'neo-classic' by the Jaguar Enthusiasts Club.
The Gov in the UK has a Classic Car cutoff for free road tax for cars built before 1974.
For me it's a nailed on classic, but like the cars Jaguar built before it they have to come through 'time'.
I remember when I could buy a rotten MKII jag for £50 quid, and the 308 has to reach this low ebb before the prices go up, and that's for the exceptional ones that've beaten 'time'...
The Gov in the UK has a Classic Car cutoff for free road tax for cars built before 1974.
For me it's a nailed on classic, but like the cars Jaguar built before it they have to come through 'time'.
I remember when I could buy a rotten MKII jag for £50 quid, and the 308 has to reach this low ebb before the prices go up, and that's for the exceptional ones that've beaten 'time'...
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Well apparently, according to the nurse , I should have done some revision for this test. (failed ) I did not throw any `P` codes and she reckons a quick clump with a hammer comes under unethical conduct. lol
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The 308 is deemed a 'neo-classic' by the Jaguar Enthusiasts Club.
The Gov in the UK has a Classic Car cutoff for free road tax for cars built before 1974.
For me it's a nailed on classic, but like the cars Jaguar built before it they have to come through 'time'.
I remember when I could buy a rotten MKII jag for £50 quid, and the 308 has to reach this low ebb before the prices go up, and that's for the exceptional ones that've beaten 'time'...
The Gov in the UK has a Classic Car cutoff for free road tax for cars built before 1974.
For me it's a nailed on classic, but like the cars Jaguar built before it they have to come through 'time'.
I remember when I could buy a rotten MKII jag for £50 quid, and the 308 has to reach this low ebb before the prices go up, and that's for the exceptional ones that've beaten 'time'...
now please don't get me wrong ,you helped me out when I had the brain fart with the bolts, but did you scroll down after "PRE 1974" (known as historic vehicles)? and Get to electric vehicles?
" The electricity must come from an external source, or an electric storage battery. Not connected to any source of power when the vehicle is moving to be exempt."
Nothing too wrong so far, just standard government speak... Now scroll down to the last two lines...
IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THIS PAGE ?
LAST UPDATED :- 1 April 2014
Normal UK Government ill thought out document ?
Or April fool gag ?
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Sorry to be an obtuse Yank, but are you saying the news was good or not-so-good?
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On the plus side they did not want to admit me, so I can attend to the new windscreen and tyres my Jag needs.
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Don, thank you for taking the time to enquire about my health, Because of the emphysema and some bizarre weather combinations that have resulted in the worst air pollution for decades in southern England, not to mention dumping what seems to be half the Sahara Deserts sand on us, my breathing is not that good.
You must be absolutely miserable - I can't even imagine. One thing your condition makes me think of is the cabin air filter. I don't know if the X308 is equipped with an activated carbon filter for the air that enters the passenger compartment from outside, but if so, it's something you would want to renew it more often than most people do.
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