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Old 06-08-2022 | 09:54 AM
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This car has a problem. I bought a set COMPLETE TIMING CHAIN ​​KIT but the craftsman tells me that it fits. See pictures. I have a question? Who's your experience on this issue.

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Old 06-08-2022 | 02:54 PM
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The chain sets sold (as yours kit is) are for the later 4.0 and 4.2 AJV8 engines. (engine S/N 0108130000 onward)

I always buy the original style primary guide blades from Jaguar (2 tensioner blades and 2 guide blades) for the earlier engines.

Some people use the wrong ones and just make them work.

I have not seen a 'correct' timing set for the early engines so a kit plus the correct primary parts are what I use.
 
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Old 06-09-2022 | 05:04 AM
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Результаты перевода

star_borderThanks for answer. But I got a letter from Jaguar where it was written.
 
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Old 06-09-2022 | 12:11 PM
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Can you tell me what you used for your car?


 
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Old 06-09-2022 | 12:45 PM
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The aluminum guides/blades are for the MORSE-STYLE 'silent running' chains used in the later engine.
I don't like using them in the early engines!!

Original style primary guides/blades for roller chain primaries.
Primary Guide NCA1998AB
Primary Tensioer Blade NCA2025AB

The Morse style guides are narrow because the Morse chains are narrow.

It's your car and free to use whatever you want.(my car/my choice)
 
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Old 06-09-2022 | 08:47 PM
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Let's back up, ...where'd you buy it, ...what craftsman and what's your question? Yeah we see pics, but you fail to identify anything...I know what they are, but what's your issue sport. Your description is as clear as mud.
 
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Old 06-10-2022 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 595336100
This car has a problem. I bought a set COMPLETE TIMING CHAIN ​​KIT but the craftsman tells me that it fits. See pictures. I have a question? Who's your experience on this issue.
Seems that the translation has caused the question to be unclear. Try again to explain the problem/doubts you are having regarding the timing parts you got.
 
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Old 06-10-2022 | 03:02 AM
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Welcome to the forums 595336100,

I've merged your two separate threads on this question so all the replies are together in the same place.

motorcarman has explained in posts #2 and #6 why the timing chain tensioners in the COMPLETE TIMING CHAIN ​​KIT you have purchased are different to the original ones on your XJR. It is a later design where the tensioners are longer and narrower and the chains are also narrower to match them. You can have this KIT fitted but he recommends using the original type.

I see you are in Tblisi, Georgia and options for obtaining Jaguar parts may be both limited and expensive.

Graham
 

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Old 06-10-2022 | 09:34 AM
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My apologies, I thought your listing for Georgia was in the US. I had no idea you were in Eastern Europe.
 
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Old 06-10-2022 | 12:52 PM
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Thank you .Everyone. Sorry for my English. Yes I am in georgia tbilisi. Here in the car, there is nothing. Here is the Jaguar Center, in everything I need
.3000 $. I need to order. So I started looking for an alternative.
 
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Old 06-10-2022 | 01:15 PM
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I enjoy this car

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Old 06-10-2022 | 03:02 PM
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I have purchased the 'kits' that have all the parts but I just discard the primary guides/blades and use the metal tensioners (primary and secondary) because they are less expensive than individual from Jaguar or elsewhere.

I use the original chains if the engine has low mileage (I measure them against new to check for 'stretch') and if the chains don't look good, I discard and use the best chains I can find. The ones in the kit sometimes look 'flimsy' or substandard but some of them look good.

I like the original GUIDES/BLADES because they fit back as intended. (I provided part numbers in previous post #6)

A combination of the 'kit' and some OEM guides/blades is my preference for the repair.

The thin aluminum guides might work fine. I just don't like how narrow they are.
 
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Old 06-11-2022 | 10:51 AM
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I will buy what you recommend. I will post news. thanks

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