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Old 12-04-2012, 04:58 PM
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Good! You are making progress. If you can get a motor for cheap, go for it. If not, it is fairly easy to test if the motor is getting power or not while it is not running.

So, what Gremlins are we still chasing?
 
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Hi
Here is the Wiper Body Processor Module Diagram PDF weblink (Fig 14.1 on page 79 in pdf file):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gawjuyqyha...%20Diagram.pdf

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Im at the point im trying to find an abs sensor, and used wiper motor because my wiper doesn't park in the correct position either. It just stops in the middle of the windshield
 
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:23 AM
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That COULD be because that is where the circuit is loosing power, or, of course, it could be the park switch. Since your wires are already knackered, why not get the meter on the motor leads and see if it is actually loosing power Red, high or purple, low speed wire) and see if LS11 or LS12 are pulled in. Check to see if the park switch (red-yellow wire) is actually changing state when it stops midstroke, or if it stops for some reason besides the motor assembly.
 
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Hi
Use part# LJA2226AA to search ebay.com - they have a lot of used wheel speed sensors at various prices ( lots lower than Jaguar Dealership parts dept list price of $268).
Gaudin Jaguar parts.com discounted price is $217.50 plus shipping.
Try calling Greenville Jaguar Parts in North Carolina - tell them you are a Jaguar Forum member and they will give you a discounted price and free shipment on parts over $25 (price maybe a few dollars less than Gaudin total price with shipping).

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Old 12-05-2012, 10:50 AM
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James,

Could you PM me a picture of the ABS sensor? I will send you one gratis if mine matches. (I should have a few from the XJR I parted) Wiper motor is also a possibility ($25+shipping?)
 
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looks like the forum members have sorted this one right out! kudos to dsnyder and the rest of the guys! love it
 
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:44 PM
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Please inbox me your email address and i can send the abs picture that helps me out a million!!! Thank you! And the wiper motor sure my zip is 48185 for shipping cost..

On a side note.... had to do ANOTHER hard reboot today! This time i put in a brand new optima yellow top battery. Wish me luck..

Also this code p1000 whats the deal with this code, i clear it and it comes right back again?
 
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P1000 means the emission system has not had time to retest since the battery was reconnected. It will change to P1111 after several restarts and time running.
 
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Well, not even a full day and it needs ANOTHER hard reboot!!! What exactly does the bpm control? Im starting to think my bpm is shot : (
 
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jamie:
What exactly is the symptom the re-boot fixes?
 
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I lose dome lights... Trunk lights. ... Driver power window... Moonroof.... And key in ignition chime
 
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:06 AM
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Hmmm! You might very well be right! Before I spent the money, I would make sure I do not have some voltage drop between the battery and the BPM. Check the voltage at the BPM.
 
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Hi Jamie
Your electrical issues sure sound like they are related to the BPM - Body Processor Module. Could be a loose wiring connectors, malfunctioning relay or fuse.

There are a number of fuses that the protect the BPM (one of the heelboard fuse boxes has 2 fuses - one for BPM and another for the Body processor module - battery supply for solenoids, lamps and motors).

Since I do not have a 1998 Jaguar XJ vechile care handbook, I cannot tell you exactly the fuse number location or if it is the Left or Right heelboard fusebox.

Here is a PDF file that gives infomation on the inputs and outputs of the Body Processor Module along with the other interacting modules:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e5xakjhjpn...Funcitions.pdf

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When i bought this car there was a. Number of relay spots open with pins in them. I put relays in those spots. Im wondering if that may be the issue? I need a book for a 1998 xj8l vanden plas i guess lol
 
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I found an Ebay listing for a set of handbooks with case for 1998 XJ - Buy it Now price $29.98 free shipping. It has all 4 books - Drivers Handbook, Sound System Guide, Security System Guide and Vehicle Car Handbook.

1998 Jaguar XJ Owners Manual Sound System Vehicle Care Security System Books | eBay

Sounds like a good deal, especially if you do not received when you purchased your car.

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Originally Posted by jamies xj8l
When i bought this car there was a. Number of relay spots open with pins in them. I put relays in those spots. Im wondering if that may be the issue? I need a book for a 1998 xj8l vanden plas i guess lol
It's possible you may have confused the system by putting relays in to positions where that powered option was not on your particular car at manufacture.

This website has the full set of Jaguar circuit diagrams for various models-including all the relay positions-as well as the Parts Catalogues for numerous models:

www.captainjaguarscathouse.com

Click on the Reference tab on the LH side, then click on the Electrical Reference tab to access all the wiring diagram files-then just choose your model & year...
 
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Hi
I made this JPEG of all the Relays in the various locations - copied from 1998 XJ Wiring Guide page 29:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/92trpg692y...0Locations.jpg

It does show and identify the relays better than the Vehicle Car Handbook.

You can view the JPEG in your internet brower (just click anywhere on the image to view at 100%, for larger view increase the zoom level to 125%) or use the download button, then direct download option, then open (opens in your whatever default picture viewer on your PC) then it can be saved on PC.

Check the relays in your car against the images and relays listed and see if you have put in any relays that do not apply (ie possibly stuff such as inner cooler pump, powerwash relay, etc).

The Vehicle Care Handbook does give a detailed list of the fuses in all the fuseboxes. I have PDF files for the 2000 XJ, but when I compare the fuse sizes to the 1998 fusebox wiring diagrams, they are not the same.

Unfortunely there is no simple diagram in the Wiring Guide for all the fuses that are located in the various fuseboxes that give their use.
There are fuse diagrams for each of the fuseboxes, but most do not say what they protect. They just give you all the input and output references (symbols some with FIG number references to other wiring diagrams).

Here is a download link to the 1998 Wiring Guide PDF file:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?23yspyx85n2d9zp

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Old 12-10-2012, 06:17 PM
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Hello
I copied this JTIS 1998 XJ Fusebox Locations and Fuses and Relays Identified and Listed into a PDF file:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oteqgnq6k0...ID%20Lists.pdf

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Old 12-13-2012, 07:26 PM
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Update.... based on the reference pages listed i finally had time to take a look and this is what i found and removed because i believe my car does not have these features..

Engine managment fuse box fuse 2 intercooler water pump.
And fuse 1 adaptive dampening

Trunk fuse box
Fuse 15 supercharger fuel pump
Fuse 16 trailer wiring
Fuse 18 rear seat movment


Relays
Engine compartment
Relay headlamp washer pump

Trunk relays
Relay second fuel pump for supercharger


Did another hard reboot, windshield wiper still acting up... ill drive it this weekend and see if the window and light issue stops, also i will send you a pic of that abs sensor..

Thank you all so much!!
 


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