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Old 08-17-2014, 11:08 PM
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Need to in trying to decide which XJ8 zf5hp24 transmission oil sump filter to buy and where to buy.

Oil sump filter from Jaguar is part# JLM20216

Prices from Gaudin jaguar parts - list $46.88 online price is $43.95.

Oil sump filter O ring from Jaguar is part# JLM20217

Prices from
gaudin jaguar parts - list $4.31 online price is $3.23

Transmission pan gasket from Jaguar is part# JLM20204

Prices from Gaudin jaguar parts - list $40.37 online price is $37.84

Welsh Enterprises sells Transmission Filter Kit - XJ8 (98-03) XK8 (97-02)
Part# JLM20216K (XJ8 (1998-2003) and XK8 (1997-2002) transmission filter includes O-Ring and gasket $39.95 plus UPS ground 2 day shipping $12.02 (total $51,97). Not sure if why oem or aftermarket???

On Amazon - Mark Automotive Automatic Transmission Filter Kit Price: $51.87 & FREE Shipping - you may have to add sales tax. 1)JLM 20216 Filter1)JLM 20214 gasket1)JLM 20217 O-ring (Filter to Valve Body) - Oem part# W01331623956MAM (MAM is Mark Automotive Manufacturing).

Gaudin jaguar total would be $99.97 ($43.95 + $3.23 + $37.84) + shipping $14.95.

Rock Auto Parts
ATP Part # B346 (0501004925) $16.09 plus shipping $8.87 total $24.96 comment from Amazon review - gasket comes folded in the package so it's not easy to get it to lay flat during assembly.
Not sure if it comes with O-ring???


Has anyone used these parts from Mark Automotive Manufacturing (on amazon or other auto suppliers) or from Welsh Enterprises or the ATP B346 from Rock Auto Parts ??????

I like to make an informed choice.

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For what it's worth Jim,I just brought all genuine filters inc fuel,oil,air and trans kit from Bristish Parts.
I order extra oil filters as it costs less in freight overall.They may be worth a look as they know what you want.
 
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Hi Neil
British Parts website does have the transmission filter kit $93.20 plus US mail shipping $7.70 total $100.90.

Advance Auto Parts online has Pro-King Automatic Transmission Filter Kit - part# FK-354 $30.99 - promo code discount TRT30 (30% discount) net total is $21.69 - local store pickup (no shipping cost).

Has anyone used Pro-King filter kit???
 
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Update:

Advance Auto Parts online has Pro-King Automatic Transmission Filter Kit - part# FK-354 $30.99 - promo code discount TRT30 (30% discount) nets $21.69 - no local store pickup only ship to home option add $9.99 - totals $31.68

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Another Update - sorry cannot edit previous posts - 30 minute limit on editing them.

I called Welsh Enterprises and the kit status is out of stock right now.

I also called Eriksson Industries in Old Saybrook CT (ZF transmission authorized dealership) they have the filter & gasket for about $70 shipped.

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That is a part I would never risk getting other than OE -- Especially with such a reasonable price from an authorized dealer.

I thought you put a new transmission in your car?
 
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We had our transmission rebuilt at Eriksson Industries in Old Saybrook CT (ZF transmission authorized dealership) in Sept 2010 (92000 miles).

We now have 134000 miles - 42000 miles since the rebuild.
I will be changing the ZF transmission fluid, its filter and gasket - I just ordered the filter and gasket today over the phone from Eriksson - will receive them tomorrow.

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One would assume they know what they are doing and you would get any upgraded part per your rebuild .. I would think the best approach.

What are they saying for fluid -- ZF was always very specific about the rebuilders could use.
 
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I probably shoudn't buy into prices Jim. We have the option of 'dealer' or internet. Australia and the States are not a level playing field.

Dealer prices are not an option compared to online genuine parts. My point was mainly if you are doing it I like to do it right once and genuine parts are usually the best for me. BP and SNG may be more expensive than some options but I know what I am getting.
Good to do the homework first. Good result.

Just thought the suggestion was to check it out as you did.
 
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Eriksson Industries filled the transmission with Lifeguardfluid5 (Esso LT 71141) after they rebuilt it.

Here is a photo of the 1 liter bottles:



Here is reference guide:



We had to add another 2) 1 liter bottles of ATF fluid after the transmission was reinstalled (used Audi /VW ATF - G 052 162 A2) - purchased from local VW dealership $19.00 per 1 liter bottle plus sales tax.

Here is a photo of the VW 1 liter bottle label:



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Thats the original fluid - interesting how ZF specifies that the authorized rebuilders use the original fluid. I get it through Autohaus ... They used to consider the original a semi-synthetic vs the later aftermarket full synthetic.

Autohaus used to carry the original MB fluid for the XJR .. now NLA
 
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Current info on ATF fluid cost for ZF5HP24 transmission.

Eriksson Industries sells a case of 6) 1 liter bottles - Lifeguardfluid5 (Esso LT 71141) for $86.28 plus $11.00 shipping (local destination) -total $97.28 gives cost per liter of $16.21.

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That is a better price then Autohaus ... although I normally only bought a few at a time.

I believe the ZF stuff is the actual Esso product -- now Mobil. You can still get the OE power-steering fluid -- that is labeled Mobil.

Anyway .. good luck!
 
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We keep the filter & gasket kit in stock $18.63. The o'ring also at 4.70. (JF discount prices). We also carry the OE Esso LT71141 fluid at $32.17 per 1 Litre bottle.
 
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Here are 2 JPEG files I created:
1st one showing photo of ZF5HP24 filter (ZF part# 0501 004 925 01) and its label:



next photo of ZF5HP24 Pan Gasket (ZF part# 0501 314 899 01) and its label:



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Originally Posted by jimlombardi
We had our transmission rebuilt at Eriksson Industries in Old Saybrook CT (ZF transmission authorized dealership) in Sept 2010 (92000 miles).

We now have 134000 miles - 42000 miles since the rebuild.
I will be changing the ZF transmission fluid, its filter and gasket - I just ordered the filter and gasket today over the phone from Eriksson - will receive them tomorrow.

Jim Lombardi
Jim...I have used the Mark Automotive kit from Amazon with no dramas.
I think some of those prices are a rip-off!
Last time, I bought two kits and got a regular user discount.
 
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Between my personal drivers and my company cars I maintain about 15 cars. Been doing this for about the past 25 years. My brother and I play around with another 5 or so that are not used very often.

I am always buying filters and maintenance parts -- always on the look out for 10 year old MB's and the like with low miles .. few Jags in the mix.

I can tell you that there is a vast difference in aftermarket parts ... both in quality and construction. Even among the major suppliers one can see differences.

I'm never surprised when we have a problem in a newly purchased used MB's to see some aftermarket part being the cause. Even the cheap air filters don't hold up. The rubber stuff is junk and even thing like ball joints don't hold up.

The fleet cars are all on maintenance schedules ... and I normally order parts from Autohaus sometimes Rockauto for the Japanese cars. But for critical parts or something that requires a lot of labor i'm very selective.

Spending a bit more to assure the correct part in both fitment and construction for a particular application ....... especially something like a transmission ... is correct IMO.
 
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