New Owner 1994 XJ81 V12
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I told you wrong and no harm to car if you followed previous instructions , you will just get nothing
The added ground wire will have to be clipped on a ground point and when you rotate the key fully to the start position the starter relay should close and get engine rotation
Have you swapped this relay with one of the same part # like a headlight or A / C ,but you will have to leave the ignition positive relay alone and the original installed
The added ground wire will have to be clipped on a ground point and when you rotate the key fully to the start position the starter relay should close and get engine rotation
Have you swapped this relay with one of the same part # like a headlight or A / C ,but you will have to leave the ignition positive relay alone and the original installed
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#42
I told you wrong and no harm to car if you followed previous instructions , you will just get nothing
The added ground wire will have to be clipped on a ground point and when you rotate the key fully to the start position the starter relay should close and get engine rotation
Have you swapped this relay with one of the same part # like a headlight or A / C ,but you will have to leave the ignition positive relay alone and the original installed
The added ground wire will have to be clipped on a ground point and when you rotate the key fully to the start position the starter relay should close and get engine rotation
Have you swapped this relay with one of the same part # like a headlight or A / C ,but you will have to leave the ignition positive relay alone and the original installed
#47
#48
The starter relay and it's proper functioning and test points is the split your problem in half point
Not much you can check on the starter beside ensuring the cables are tight ( they do come loose )
On the ignition switch it should be tested at the starter relay socket , me not knowing as a picture of the ignition switch ( would have to be labeled with #s ) , My ignition switch is different and works differently on my model XJ6 ( X300 )
Not much you can check on the starter beside ensuring the cables are tight ( they do come loose )
On the ignition switch it should be tested at the starter relay socket , me not knowing as a picture of the ignition switch ( would have to be labeled with #s ) , My ignition switch is different and works differently on my model XJ6 ( X300 )
#49
Jmains123,
From the video, it's now clear that you haven't got an XJS. You have an XJ81, an XJ12 version of the XJ40 saloon car.
If you post in the appropriate forum, I'm sure the members will be able to help you. This is the XJ40 Saloons Forum:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xj40-xj81-25/
Good luck
Paul
From the video, it's now clear that you haven't got an XJS. You have an XJ81, an XJ12 version of the XJ40 saloon car.
If you post in the appropriate forum, I'm sure the members will be able to help you. This is the XJ40 Saloons Forum:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xj40-xj81-25/
Good luck
Paul
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Hi Jmains123,
Welcome to the Jaguar Forums!. I see that in the last few days you have posted on this topic 27 times in multiple threads. This leads to confusion and duplicate effort on the parts of other members. From now on, please post all your questions and replies on this topic in this thread. I will try to merge all your other posts and other members' replies here so all that has transpired thus far is collected in this single thread.
Cheers,
Don
Welcome to the Jaguar Forums!. I see that in the last few days you have posted on this topic 27 times in multiple threads. This leads to confusion and duplicate effort on the parts of other members. From now on, please post all your questions and replies on this topic in this thread. I will try to merge all your other posts and other members' replies here so all that has transpired thus far is collected in this single thread.
Cheers,
Don
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#56
Oh that I’ve been gone and thank you guys for helping me out so much yes there’s a fuse relay G I don’t know how to check it to see if it’s working or not also use C3 is good and not blown thank you again
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Starter relay location and test 93 xj40 - XJ40 - Jag-lovers Forums
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Not according to my circuit diagrams. It is the 4th element of relay module ‘G’ (the one with the Blue base/connector) in that position which is the starter relay. It is energised when the the White/red wire from fuse #6 in the centre fuse box to pin 10 of the Blue relay connector goes to ground via the Green/orange wire from pin 19 of that connector. That Green/orange wire goes to the rotary transmission switch on the tranny and providing that switch is in the ‘P’ or ‘N’ position, the Red/orange wire from it to pin 47 on the Yellow connector at the CPU should go to ground if the ignition key is in the ‘start’ position III.
However, (there always is a ‘however’!), the CPU will not allow that circuit to go to ground unless the Brake Switch is ‘made’ indicating that you have your foot on the brake pedal.
BTW, I do not remember a “dash brake light” illuminating when I applied the brake on my car - only doing so if there was a brake fault. Does the stop light illuminate when you apply the brakes?
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Not according to my circuit diagrams. It is the 4th element of relay module ‘G’ (the one with the Blue base/connector) in that position which is the starter relay. It is energised when the the White/red wire from fuse #6 in the centre fuse box to pin 10 of the Blue relay connector goes to ground via the Green/orange wire from pin 19 of that connector. That Green/orange wire goes to the rotary transmission switch on the tranny and providing that switch is in the ‘P’ or ‘N’ position, the Red/orange wire from it to pin 47 on the Yellow connector at the CPU should go to ground if the ignition key is in the ‘start’ position III.
However, (there always is a ‘however’!), the CPU will not allow that circuit to go to ground unless the Brake Switch is ‘made’ indicating that you have your foot on the brake pedal.
BTW, I do not remember a “dash brake light” illuminating when I applied the brake on my car - only doing so if there was a brake fault. Does the stop light illuminate when you apply the brakes?
Last edited by Parker 7; 10-02-2022 at 06:05 PM.
#59
From a quick scan of this thread it seems to me that if the car has no power to the dash instruments and the starter isn't doing it's job I seriously doubt whether the starter relay module is the problem.
If the ignition isn't coming on, nothing else is going to work. Can you hear the fuel pump run when you turn the ignition switch to the on position? Any signs of life in the car at all? You could check the ignition on relay but I have no idea where that relay is located on the 12 cylinder. 12 cylinder documentation is sorely lacking AFAIK.
Has the car had an immobilizer/alarm fitted or has the button on the red switch in the footwell popped up? Just a few WAG's.
Larry
If the ignition isn't coming on, nothing else is going to work. Can you hear the fuel pump run when you turn the ignition switch to the on position? Any signs of life in the car at all? You could check the ignition on relay but I have no idea where that relay is located on the 12 cylinder. 12 cylinder documentation is sorely lacking AFAIK.
Has the car had an immobilizer/alarm fitted or has the button on the red switch in the footwell popped up? Just a few WAG's.
Larry
Last edited by Lawrence; 10-02-2022 at 06:27 PM.
#60
The ignition switch is key to having the most important power distribution relays to close besides the starter relay
The key is pin 5 and 6 which is a car frame ground that may have been disturbed
Look for 2 wires . Black / Pink ( 6 ) and Black ( 5 )
There is a ignition switch connector to test at leaving the key barrel alone
The key is pin 5 and 6 which is a car frame ground that may have been disturbed
Look for 2 wires . Black / Pink ( 6 ) and Black ( 5 )
There is a ignition switch connector to test at leaving the key barrel alone
Last edited by Parker 7; 10-02-2022 at 07:06 PM.