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Old 08-08-2021, 06:28 PM
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There are two parts on my '93 that will need replacement in the future. I have been having a difficult time replacing the motorized antenna; two different ones (one Harada and the other Hirschmann) were not the correct one. Is there a company that can refurbish the original one installed in the car, and if so, suggests for any such business would be appreciated?

The other part is the fan assembly. It is working, but a knowledgable mechanic with much XJ40 experience says that these are difficult to acquire. If it comes to this, again, dos aanyone recommend a competent specialist?

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Sorry I cant help on the antenna other than to suggest watching for one online or checking salvage yards.
For clarification, which fan are you referring to?
 
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Originally Posted by eksjaysix
..... I have been having a difficult time replacing the motorized antenna; two different ones (one Harada and the other Hirschmann) were not the correct one. Is there a company that can refurbish the original one installed in the car, and if so, suggests for any such business would be appreciated? .....
Provided the aerial motor hasn't failed and it's just the normal sticking/broken antenna, this is available OE from Jaguar:
https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic...rial-mast.html

Jaguar spares specialists (see our Sponsors and Vendors) usually have aftermarket equivalent antenna at lower cost.

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Originally Posted by jerry_hoback
Sorry I cant help on the antenna other than to suggest watching for one online or checking salvage yards.
For clarification, which fan are you referring to?
Hi Jerry....of course.....I meant the radiator fan. Thanks as always for your well-informed contributions!
 
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Originally Posted by eksjaysix
There are two parts on my '93 that will need replacement in the future. I have been having a difficult time replacing the motorized antenna; two different ones (one Harada and the other Hirschmann) were not the correct one. Is there a company that can refurbish the original one installed in the car, and if so, suggests for any such business would be appreciated?

The other part is the fan assembly. It is working, but a knowledgable mechanic with much XJ40 experience says that these are difficult to acquire. If it comes to this, again, dos aanyone recommend a competent specialist?
Hi Phil,

For years, I have been buying Jaguar antenna masts from various eBay vendors, typically for under USD $20.00. When possible, I buy masts that come with a new nut, simply because it's nice to renew the nut if yours is showing its age. But often you can reuse your old nut with the new mast. If you need the rubber grommet, they are also available from eBay sellers.

I have never had to replace a motor, but I have on a couple of occasions had to remove the motor and open the case to remove the broken end of the old Nylon rope gear so I could install a new antenna mast. If your motor jammed due to a broken rope gear, a fuse may have blown, so if the motor doesn't run at all, check your fuses.

I have heard of motors failing due to cracked antenna grommets that allowed too much water into the motor housing. The housing does have a drain tube that channels water out through the boot floor, but if too much water is allowed into the motor housing over a long period of time, the motor may corrode and fail.

Replacing the antenna mast is simple. I recommend applying a couple of layers of painter's tape on the painted areas around the antenna to reduce the risk of scratching your paint while removing the antenna mast. I think I recall that the teeth on the rope gear aim toward the front of the car. Once you have the nut loose, just turn the radio on and the motor will turn the rope gear out. If you're lucky, the broken end will also turn out far enough for you to grab it and pull it out. To install the new antenna mast, insert the rope gear with the teeth facing toward the front of the car, turn the radio off and carefully feed the rope gear and antenna base into the motor housing stem. Then turn the nut down into the stem. It helps to have an assistant to turn the radio on and off.

Regarding the fans, your 1993 can use the same fan/shroud assembly used in the X300 and X308. When one of the fans in our '93 failed, I replaced the entire shroud and twin-fan assembly with one from an X308 that I purchased on eBay. It bolted right on, but I had to replace the electrical connectors. You can replace only one fan but you may still have to do some rewiring.

Cheers,

Don
 

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Originally Posted by Don B
Hi Phil,

For years, I have been buying Jaguar antenna masts from various eBay vendors, typically for under USD $20.00. When possible, I buy masts that come with a new nut, simply because it's nice to renew the nut if yours is showing its age. But often you can reuse your old nut with the new mast. If you need the rubber grommet, they are also available from eBay sellers.

I have never had to replace a motor, but I have on a couple of occasions had to remove the motor and open the case to remove the broken end of the old Nylon rope gear so I could install a new antenna mast. If your motor jammed due to a broken rope gear, a fuse may have blown, so if the motor doesn't run at all, check your fuses.

I have heard of motors failing due to cracked antenna grommets that allowed too much water into the motor housing. The housing does have a drain tube that channels water out through the boot floor, but if too much water is allowed into the motor housing over a long period of time, the motor may corrode and fail.

Replacing the antenna mast is simple. I recommend applying a couple of layers of painters tape on the painted areas around the antenna to reduce the risk of scratching your paint while removing the antenna mast. I think I recall that the teeth on the rope gear aim toward the front of the car. Once you have the nut loose, just turn the radio on and the motor will turn the rope gear out. If you're lucky, the broken end will also turn out far enough for you to grab it and pull it out. To install the new antenna mast, insert the rope gear with the teeth facing toward the front of the car, turn the radio off and carefully feed the rope gear and antenna base into the motor housing stem. Then turn the nut down into the stem. It helps to have an assistant to turn the radio on and off.

Regarding the fans, your 1993 can use the same fan/shroud assembly used in the X300 and X308. When one of the fans in our '93 failed, I replaced the entire shroud and twin-fan assembly with one from an X308 that I purchased on eBay. It bolted right on, but I had to replace the electrical connectors. You can replace only one fan but you may still have to do some rewiring.

Cheers,

Don
Hi there Don,

Thanks so much for ths information! (It's the beauty of this forum as you expect one thing, and the forum icons like yourself contribute something totally unexpected) It seems more sensible just to see what I can do to get the original functioning, so I greatly appreciate these tips. I did get a grommet a while back and at least I know THAT is the correct part! My car has an electrical short somewhere as there is a serious drain on the battery; I always plug the battery into a tender / trickle-charger, but when I feel ambitious and have the time, want to investigate that drain in depth. Based on what you are saying, I wonder if that may be the source of the drain. A couple of weeks ago, I happened to look at the hourly rates at a shop I am considering using, and not only was their hourly rate $190, that was just mechanical work as they delinated that from electrical work that was like $450 an hour! I've never seen it broken down this way, and certainly not those rates!
 
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I would like to add that the electrical fans don't run all the time, they are temperature controlled and just run when things get hot or the AC needs to blow sitting in traffic. Perhaps there's nothing wrong with them?

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