XJ40 ( XJ81 ) 1986 - 1994

XJ40 1990- Came with faux leather appearance? Why?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 10-12-2014 | 01:01 PM
rmbb's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: Stockholm
Default XJ40 1990- Came with faux leather appearance? Why?

The 1990- XJ40 has a different leather than the 87-89. With the 1990 XJ40 the leather all of a sudden got a vinyl glossy feel to it.

Does anyone know what happened there? What did they change? New tannery or different clear-coating on the leather or what?
 
  #2  
Old 10-14-2014 | 02:46 PM
db in uk's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 145
Likes: 58
From: UK
Default

How odd. I wouldn't say the leather in my 1992 Sovereign differs from the 1987 XJ40 which preceded it. The seat design is slightly different though.

Some late cars such as the 3.2S and XJ6 Gold do seem to have a different leather though, at least to me. It wears less well. They are much later cars than yours though, launched in '1993.25' model year.
 
  #3  
Old 10-14-2014 | 03:22 PM
rmbb's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: Stockholm
Default

They are different. I even read a 1990 rest review in a car magazine where the motor journalist commented that the leather in the 1990 felt slippery and less nice than the earlier cars.
 
  #4  
Old 10-14-2014 | 10:26 PM
Don B's Avatar
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 19,728
Likes: 13,650
From: Crossroads of America
Default

Originally Posted by rmbb
The 1990- XJ40 has a different leather than the 87-89. With the 1990 XJ40 the leather all of a sudden got a vinyl glossy feel to it.

Does anyone know what happened there? What did they change? New tannery or different clear-coating on the leather or what?

The leather in our '93 Vanden Plas (Daimler) is much softer than the leather was in our '88 Sovereign. My understanding is that the Vanden Plas / Daimler cars were fitted with "Autolux" leather, a very fine, soft, garment-grade leather with virtually no grain or pebbling. The downside is that this super soft leather wears more quickly, so I've had to do quite a bit of rejuvination, repair and re-dying:

Welcome to Jag-lovers - Members Photo Viewing Page


I wonder if the "Base" cars received a different quality of leather with a thicker surface finish, or if perhaps the leather in your car has been redyed and coated with something like Klear Kote from Leatherique?

http://www.leatherique.com/products.html


Cheers,

Don
 

Last edited by Don B; 10-14-2014 at 10:29 PM.
  #5  
Old 10-14-2014 | 11:13 PM
Doug's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 24,976
Likes: 11,021
From: Pacific Northwest USA
Default

Don, I don't have any XJ40-specific experience but broadly speaking, yes, it wasn't unusual for base model cars to get less-than-perfect hides, often embossed to hide defects. The embossed leather can take on a different and glossy-ish appearance at times.

My Ser III base model, oddly, had embossed leather on the front seats and smooth leather on the rear. Ha !

Cheers
DD
 
The following users liked this post:
Don B (10-14-2014)
  #6  
Old 10-15-2014 | 03:58 PM
rmbb's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: Stockholm
Default

Yes the motor journalist testing the 1990 claimed that the new leather felt slippery due to heavily embossed. I've sat in probably 20 XJ40s and it seems to me that all 90-94 have the same slippery leather and the pre 1990 have the non slippery leather. On finished leather there is polyurethane clear coat cover which according to British standards can be thicker than 0.15 mm if it's supposed to be called genuine leather. I've done a little reading up on leather and it seems to me that there are many many different variables that come into play when the question of the quality of a leather is to be assessed. It's not only from which part of the animal the leather has been taken, it's not only from what layer of the hide it's been taken from (the bottom layer is often used for those work gloves you often see for sale at places like Home Depot). The top layer is the more durable layer. Anyways, 100s of other factors come into play. I wish some leather guy working at Jaguar at the time could tell me the story.
 
  #7  
Old 10-15-2014 | 05:37 PM
rmbb's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: Stockholm
Default

That's an impressive job on your seat by the way!
 
  #8  
Old 10-15-2014 | 07:14 PM
Lawrence's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,654
Likes: 1,873
From: Victoria BC Canada
Default

Paul's Jag in Florida is the ULTIMATE jag leather expert, he bought all the old stock, hides and patterns and used to supply replacements - why not give him a call/email?

Larry
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
italianjobtony
XJ40 ( XJ81 )
7
04-05-2016 09:23 PM
ssshield
New Member Area - Intro a MUST
8
09-24-2015 09:29 PM
NTL1991
XJ40 ( XJ81 )
6
09-20-2015 07:22 PM
hoodun
XJS ( X27 )
9
09-14-2015 02:26 PM
SoCalJagS
F-Type ( X152 )
4
09-13-2015 08:13 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: XJ40 1990- Came with faux leather appearance? Why?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:11 PM.