Cruise/speed control acting odd
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Cruise/speed control acting odd
Hi everyone,
When I push the "set" button on the end of the turn signal stalk, my 86 XJ6 accelerates instead of holding the speed. The only way to stop it is to turn off the master switch by the gear lever. Has anyone seen this before? I'd like to troubleshoot before randomly replacing parts.
Thanks for any ideas you may have!
When I push the "set" button on the end of the turn signal stalk, my 86 XJ6 accelerates instead of holding the speed. The only way to stop it is to turn off the master switch by the gear lever. Has anyone seen this before? I'd like to troubleshoot before randomly replacing parts.
Thanks for any ideas you may have!
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My guess is that one of the little valves inside the servo is stuck. Perhaps the vent valve? This would mean that engine vacuum keeps pulling the servo (and hence the throttle) further and further rather than stopping at the correct point.
There is a speed adjustment/trimmer on the cruise control module but it's designed to adjust out minor discrepancies and not a gross over-acceleration.
Here's lots of reading:
Cruise Control
Cheers
DD
There is a speed adjustment/trimmer on the cruise control module but it's designed to adjust out minor discrepancies and not a gross over-acceleration.
Here's lots of reading:
Cruise Control
Cheers
DD
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And, there is another way to interrupt the CC. Tap the brake pedal.
There are two mechanical/electric switches just behind the brake pedal. One activates the brake/stop lights at the rear of the car.
The other is normaly closed allowing the CC brain to operate the servo and apply throttle. Tapping the brake pedal opens the relay circuit and the cruise does not send throttle command signals.
The other interrupt is on the shift post. No throttle commands relayed if in N or P.
possibly reverse as well. One of the micro switches found there.
I spent a lot of time under the scuttle in that area restoring the brake light feature.
My lump uses one for the converter lock feature of it's sophisticated transmission.
Errands in the Jaguar today. All but one mission accomplished. Jaguar purred.
Carl
There are two mechanical/electric switches just behind the brake pedal. One activates the brake/stop lights at the rear of the car.
The other is normaly closed allowing the CC brain to operate the servo and apply throttle. Tapping the brake pedal opens the relay circuit and the cruise does not send throttle command signals.
The other interrupt is on the shift post. No throttle commands relayed if in N or P.
possibly reverse as well. One of the micro switches found there.
I spent a lot of time under the scuttle in that area restoring the brake light feature.
My lump uses one for the converter lock feature of it's sophisticated transmission.
Errands in the Jaguar today. All but one mission accomplished. Jaguar purred.
Carl
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Curious to know if you have dived into the cruise control issue. My car has the same problem, when I press the set button on the turn lever stalk, it continues to accelerate, no matter what speed the car is going initially. I believe it would accelerate to the governed speed.
I had the bellows unit out last night, checked the electric valves for freedom of movement and for presence of rubber seals on plunger ends, and re sealed the bellows to end plates. It was rather clean inside.
I tried adjusting the two pots inside the cruise ECU today with no luck. I am stumped! Any ideas?
John
I had the bellows unit out last night, checked the electric valves for freedom of movement and for presence of rubber seals on plunger ends, and re sealed the bellows to end plates. It was rather clean inside.
I tried adjusting the two pots inside the cruise ECU today with no luck. I am stumped! Any ideas?
John
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I had an "aha" moment this evening. I removed the servo/bellows unit again and removed the servo end from the bellows. The symptoms the cruise was having pointed to the vacuum - side servo not closing the vacuum port. I removed both servos and tested for freedom of movement - check. I made sure the rubber seats were still intact - check. Then I inspected the servo housing. Patentcy of ports and vents - check. Then I looked at the thin copper springs at the lower end, the vacuum side was bent. I may be onto something... By the design of the plunger on the servo, I surmised that the copper strip fit into a groove above the plunger. After carefully straightening the spring strips, I replaced the servos and re sealed the bellows.
I just went for test drive and the cruise functions perfectly! This was a case of mechanic's error, me being the mechanic. I have pictures of the copper strip, but I do not see an option to upload pictures to a thread on Android. I'll check it out on Firefox later.
I just went for test drive and the cruise functions perfectly! This was a case of mechanic's error, me being the mechanic. I have pictures of the copper strip, but I do not see an option to upload pictures to a thread on Android. I'll check it out on Firefox later.
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