Electrical mystery
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Electrical mystery
I parked my 1981 XJ6, got out of the car and found it rolling forward. Unlocked the door, jumped in, put on the brake. I brilliantly had left the car in NEUTRAL - not park.
Now here's where it gets weird.
I put it in PARK, inserted the key in but it would not turn to the right. Just locked vertically. I pushed the car in neutral back into it's parking spot, tried again, (in PARK), but the key will not turn.
???? Any ideas? Or am I being punk'd??
Now here's where it gets weird.
I put it in PARK, inserted the key in but it would not turn to the right. Just locked vertically. I pushed the car in neutral back into it's parking spot, tried again, (in PARK), but the key will not turn.
???? Any ideas? Or am I being punk'd??
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Thank you
Jose and Jag Cad,
Jose's advice was the ticket! I twisted the wheel, turned the key, presto, I am King of the Road Again. The electrics on these old Jags seem a little...eccentric. Sometimes my friends make snide comments. I remind them I am driving a 35 year old Jag. It smells like leather. Glides like a dolphin. It was 10% of the cost of a new Hyundai. They shut up.
Jose's advice was the ticket! I twisted the wheel, turned the key, presto, I am King of the Road Again. The electrics on these old Jags seem a little...eccentric. Sometimes my friends make snide comments. I remind them I am driving a 35 year old Jag. It smells like leather. Glides like a dolphin. It was 10% of the cost of a new Hyundai. They shut up.
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Good that you're all fixed but, for the record, it was never an electrical issue.
The steering lock is purely a mechanical device. Sometimes the mechanism gets into a bind. Moving the steering wheel relieves it.
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Vancouver777,
that's great!! all XJ-6 Series 3 are like that, you have to turn the steering wheel, usually counter-clockwise to release the lock, but sometimes clockwise too.
it's a built-in anti-theft feature of the Series 3, made from 1979½ until 1987 in 6 cylinders, and until 1992 in 12 cylinders.
Also notice that when you shut the engine off, and remove the key from the ignition, if you again turn the steering wheel a bit, it will lock the steering wheel in place. You can hear it go "click". It is best to park the car with the front tires straight ahead, so you don't have to struggle later with the locking device if the front tires are turned.
that's great!! all XJ-6 Series 3 are like that, you have to turn the steering wheel, usually counter-clockwise to release the lock, but sometimes clockwise too.
it's a built-in anti-theft feature of the Series 3, made from 1979½ until 1987 in 6 cylinders, and until 1992 in 12 cylinders.
Also notice that when you shut the engine off, and remove the key from the ignition, if you again turn the steering wheel a bit, it will lock the steering wheel in place. You can hear it go "click". It is best to park the car with the front tires straight ahead, so you don't have to struggle later with the locking device if the front tires are turned.
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Locking columns way back. That bind has been involved in almost all cars with the lock feature. Tis a mechanical thing that can bind. Same CCW twist fixes it.
Ford introduced it in their cars n 1932. It remained til 1948. The ignition switch was a slick little toggle on the steering post. The starter was a separate button on the lower left corner of the dash. Slick movement. right thumb to flick the switch forward to the on position, then the left thumb to the crank button. a healthy Ford would fire almost immediately.
The lock was actually a tad flimsy. Kinda lie the point of a nail!!!
Oh, not to mention that a .25 coin was the perfect size to connect the exposed contacts on the back of the switch and turn the ignition on. A strong guy/gal could twist the wheel CCW and bend the lock tang. Add the two bits, roar and goodbye Ford...
Carl
Ford introduced it in their cars n 1932. It remained til 1948. The ignition switch was a slick little toggle on the steering post. The starter was a separate button on the lower left corner of the dash. Slick movement. right thumb to flick the switch forward to the on position, then the left thumb to the crank button. a healthy Ford would fire almost immediately.
The lock was actually a tad flimsy. Kinda lie the point of a nail!!!
Oh, not to mention that a .25 coin was the perfect size to connect the exposed contacts on the back of the switch and turn the ignition on. A strong guy/gal could twist the wheel CCW and bend the lock tang. Add the two bits, roar and goodbye Ford...
Carl
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unfortunately or maybe fortunately, my 1965 Jaguar S type does not have a locking steering column.
it has the same identical steering column as the XJ, but no locking device, although it was offered as an "OPTION" in the "Accessorrys" (yes, the Accesorry's section of the Parts Manual).
"Accesorrys" as in "Sorry You Can't Access This Unless You Pay The Dealer More Money".
it has the same identical steering column as the XJ, but no locking device, although it was offered as an "OPTION" in the "Accessorrys" (yes, the Accesorry's section of the Parts Manual).
"Accesorrys" as in "Sorry You Can't Access This Unless You Pay The Dealer More Money".
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I parked my 1981 XJ6, got out of the car and found it rolling forward. Unlocked the door, jumped in, put on the brake. I brilliantly had left the car in NEUTRAL - not park.
Now here's where it gets weird.
I put it in PARK, inserted the key in but it would not turn to the right. Just locked vertically. I pushed the car in neutral back into it's parking spot, tried again, (in PARK), but the key will not turn.
???? Any ideas? Or am I being punk'd??
Now here's where it gets weird.
I put it in PARK, inserted the key in but it would not turn to the right. Just locked vertically. I pushed the car in neutral back into it's parking spot, tried again, (in PARK), but the key will not turn.
???? Any ideas? Or am I being punk'd??
This is NOT an electrical mystery... it is plain and simple Driver Error!
Failure to set the parking brake, AND Failure to shift transmission into Park, cannot be blamed on the evil fairies of Lucas.
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