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Old 01-31-2020, 06:43 AM
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Whilst doing my lump swap, I do a lot of Ebay browsing, looking for odds and ends, ideas etc, and I just won an auction for something I have wanted since the day I bought the car, much like the engine swap, i have been back and forth on it, heard just about all the pros and cons, and in the end, the price I paid was.the deciding factor, so I sad hell with it and couldnt be happier!!!! I know they are heavy, and car is heavy, etc etc, but I just dont care, it's one of those things that I just always wanted on my car!

They are all immaculate nothing loose no rust, and they all have the center caps, i even got one for the spare., so i got 5 for 550 shipped!! I do have a question for anyone running them though. These are the Dayton rims, do i need special lug nuts? Or can i reuse the ones on the Kents?
 
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Old 01-31-2020, 07:11 AM
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if the Kent lugs are chromed and domed, and they have the right length/depth, why not.

otherwise call Dayton and ask them what size lugnuts are needed.

You MIGHT need 7/16ths Spacers For the front ones. Maybe not.
 
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:37 AM
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Good Job, Darren! I'm So glad for you!
You're neck of the woods is probably a Lot cleaner than mine, I couldn't even get down the driveway with those things looking descent.
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Wow, what a deal.. really nice. So they are heavy?? Unless you plan on racing, not an issue. Might put a strain on your shock absorbers. The added unsprung weight plus mass movement. At cruise, should be no issue.

The other key to lug to wheel fitment is the seat taper. 37 1/2 degrees " or 45 degrees. But, why nt a shiny new set to match the sparkle.

It is hard to beat the look of a moving wire wheel/

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Well done.....been chasing a reasonably priced set for years.
 
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You definitely need a set of Dayton lug nuts and washers. The nuts extend through the oversized holes in the wheel center. There is no taper. I haven't bought any in years, but when I did they came with one theft-resistant nut per wheel. It requires a special tool and is a PIA. You can skip those in favor of plain nuts, or use them for piece of mind.
 
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Old 02-01-2020, 07:53 AM
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Nice find. I concur with Robert on the lug nuts. I swapped lattice wheels for the Daytonas that came on my XJS years ago and had to use different lugs.
 
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Old 02-01-2020, 11:46 AM
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Noah:

Odd, my car has lattice wheels sourced from an XJS. Used the same lug nuts that secured the Kents on my car. they fit just right.

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1975 Jag XJ12C , OP must have spent a fortune for 4 Spoke wheels and series 3, E type splined hub , with 2 ear knockoff nuts!
NO lugnuts , they had more spokes than early E type?

it sold the car ,just because of the wheels , guy went nuts in love!
no doubt car people are unusual?
 
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Yes, you definitely need special lug nuts; as you can see in the photo there is no taper. The special nuts have a shoulder that goes down in the straight sided holes. I bought a car with wires and they felt like they were out of balance. Since I live 45 minutes from the Dayton Wire Wheel company I took them up and they showed me hairline cracks in the rims. So I had them rebuild them; new 7" chrome rims, new stainless steel spokes, and they rechromed my old hubs. So they are, in essence now brand new wheels. I have them on my Cotswold Yellow 1979 series III and yes they really sparkle.

The Dayton company is a locally owned medium sized manufacturing company and that is their only location. In the early 1900s they were downtown Dayton; now they are in the leafy suburb of Centerville, Ohio. The guy that took care of my rebuild worked there in 1987 when mine were originally made. Duesenburgs and Cords were made right up the road in Auburn Indiana and their wire wheels came from Dayton. Now those were heavy cars.
 
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An interesting story the guy at Dayton Wire Wheel company told me. Back in the 80s they had a deal with U.S. Jaguar dealers and they shipped wheels by the truckloads to dealers to be installed as dealer options. They also supplied center caps with a Jaguar growler emblem. Then in the 90s Ford bought Jaguar. One day the FBI comes running through the door with guns drawn. Seems Ford had a problem with them using the Jaguar logo without permission. Instead of having their lawyers send a letter they sent in the FBI. All these middle class, middle aged employees standing there with their hands up and mouths open.
 
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but they aint made in ENGLAND?
 
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Dayton, Ohio !

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I gave up trying all the different lug nuts I had in my bucket and went straight to the source.
12 bucks each at Dayton.
now I don't have to worry if they fit right..
 
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BTW, be sure to read the mounting and balancing write-ups on Dayton's web site.
 
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