NY auto show and electric Jag
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NY auto show and electric Jag
Saw Ian Callum who designed the new Electric Jag the I Pace on TV this afternoon. Tesla is nice but this Jag is spectacular .. a beautiful car ...made a believer in electrics out of me ... and now they find all that oil in Texas and GOD knows where else in the near future. (we were supposedly running out of it) and we will probably see a buck a gallon soon - we are swimming in the stuff. Now all we need are cheap batteries
http://www.jaguarusa.com/all-models/...car/index.html
http://www.jaguarusa.com/all-models/...car/index.html
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ronbros (11-18-2016)
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Sorry got to disagree. It looks a bit disappointing after the F-type.
Mind you I haven't seen one in the flesh but....
Sort of a Focus with added Jag bits.
I assume it will not be in the same price bracket as the Tesla S though but why that should affect the visuals of the car I don't understand. It's as though there is a set formula nowadays for any class of car to conform too differing only in a few details like grill, lights and badges.
That's probably why I'm into classic cars!
Really enjoyed Supercar superbuild featuring the F-type.
Mind you I haven't seen one in the flesh but....
Sort of a Focus with added Jag bits.
I assume it will not be in the same price bracket as the Tesla S though but why that should affect the visuals of the car I don't understand. It's as though there is a set formula nowadays for any class of car to conform too differing only in a few details like grill, lights and badges.
That's probably why I'm into classic cars!
Really enjoyed Supercar superbuild featuring the F-type.
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I can tell you from 1st hand experience that Electric cars are better driving cars in every respect in the same way a new Toyota drives better than a 15 year old Mercedes.
This is mostly becasue of their consistency and torque. You can also get so much dialed in refinement from modern digital PWM electric motor controllers. Electric cars are like robots. Their fine motor control make them have more in-common with the robots that produced them than their organic drivers.
More flexible Packaging allows for very compelling products with fewer compromises. For example, Application specific placement of batteries and electric motors with wires not drive shafts allows less cramped sports car or very high performance sedans.
Cleaner, greener, lower maintenance, highly reliable, better driving... whats not to like?
For the rest of us who still like the organic designed vehicle, powered directly by organic compounds, we're in luck. The electric car is so compelling that Low oil prices are here to stay.
Thank you Elon Musk, an immigrant to the USA BTW. Here he found the capital markets to indulge his visions...and right there is a good study in American Capitalism. By creating a viable Electric car he put the Saudi's an other despots like Chavez on notice that they didn't have a monopoly on the worlds personal transportation. Add ingenuity by the domestic carbon producers and you have a perfect storm of lower prices for longer. If I was a Saudi Royal I'd be on guard. Low oil prices really puts a dent in their plans to control their population with social welfare. Contempt, depression and stagnation that follows the reliance on social welfare makes the Kingdom vulnerable to local extremist. If the liberalize and reform they'll thrive and limit that liability.
This is mostly becasue of their consistency and torque. You can also get so much dialed in refinement from modern digital PWM electric motor controllers. Electric cars are like robots. Their fine motor control make them have more in-common with the robots that produced them than their organic drivers.
More flexible Packaging allows for very compelling products with fewer compromises. For example, Application specific placement of batteries and electric motors with wires not drive shafts allows less cramped sports car or very high performance sedans.
Cleaner, greener, lower maintenance, highly reliable, better driving... whats not to like?
For the rest of us who still like the organic designed vehicle, powered directly by organic compounds, we're in luck. The electric car is so compelling that Low oil prices are here to stay.
Thank you Elon Musk, an immigrant to the USA BTW. Here he found the capital markets to indulge his visions...and right there is a good study in American Capitalism. By creating a viable Electric car he put the Saudi's an other despots like Chavez on notice that they didn't have a monopoly on the worlds personal transportation. Add ingenuity by the domestic carbon producers and you have a perfect storm of lower prices for longer. If I was a Saudi Royal I'd be on guard. Low oil prices really puts a dent in their plans to control their population with social welfare. Contempt, depression and stagnation that follows the reliance on social welfare makes the Kingdom vulnerable to local extremist. If the liberalize and reform they'll thrive and limit that liability.
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I own a series 3 similar to a series 2 but if you park these velocipedes next to a brand new slickly styled electric, ( I am not referring to the Asian econo-boxes but rather the upscale units with great Italianesque styling that are coming) they will look like the old box that the old Jags came in.
Electric Ferrari ? Maserati? The world moves on . Just imagine things to come (fourth fifth sixth generations) with carbon fiber bodies and new battery tech
These are not kit cars but big companies (Jaguar included) offering electric versions of their top of the line vehicles. Battery technology will dramatically improve in the near future now that the country will have adults in the government doing the driving.
I like my old Jag (I have a masochistic streak in me) but it is, what it is,.. an old clunker with a V8 in a rapidly changing world. Sort of like a landline vs my smartphone. Quaint.
Electric Ferrari ? Maserati? The world moves on . Just imagine things to come (fourth fifth sixth generations) with carbon fiber bodies and new battery tech
These are not kit cars but big companies (Jaguar included) offering electric versions of their top of the line vehicles. Battery technology will dramatically improve in the near future now that the country will have adults in the government doing the driving.
I like my old Jag (I have a masochistic streak in me) but it is, what it is,.. an old clunker with a V8 in a rapidly changing world. Sort of like a landline vs my smartphone. Quaint.
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I worked for Ford, many years ago. One project we did was to modify an Escort van to electric. The van was used to house the huge battery pack. That must have been in the mid eighties. They were rough! Things have changed - nevertheless, to get electric cars sold in the UK, our government give massive amounts of money to reduce the price to make them saleable! We are going to run out of electricity due to shutting our oil and gas fired power stations! Can someone tell me where the joined up thinking is?
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Therefore design will need to be heavily biased toward lower Cd. For example...The Tesla Model S has one of the lowest Cd ever recorded for a main stream sedan, just 0.24 Other electric vehicles, even ones that are much smaller have significantly higher Cd. For example the Prius has a tested Cd of 0.30. The ipace, just 0.29. Phenomenal for an SUV.
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