Radiator Woes
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Radiator Woes
I'm resurrecting my 77 XJ6-C, after sitting for 15 years.In the days when I drove the car it ran hot. So I did many cooling things including installing a 4 coreradiator. I took that radiator into aradiator shop and learned it now leaks from the core and can't be repaired; butit can be re-cored, with 4 cores, for just $550. Whoa! Seemedkind of pricy to me.
Is this a fair price? Do you all any experience in this area? I live in Phoenix and with the air on in the summer it's a big challengeto keep it cool. Half measures won't do.
Thank
geneo
Is this a fair price? Do you all any experience in this area? I live in Phoenix and with the air on in the summer it's a big challengeto keep it cool. Half measures won't do.
Thank
geneo
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One alternative, possibly.....
Some Series III owners have used an aluminum radiator from a later model Mustang with great results. Almost perfect fit and great cooling, an available for $200 or so. If it'll fit a Series III and pretty sure it'll fit a Series II.
I'll try to find the specifics later today...if nobody chimes in sooner
Cheers
DD
Some Series III owners have used an aluminum radiator from a later model Mustang with great results. Almost perfect fit and great cooling, an available for $200 or so. If it'll fit a Series III and pretty sure it'll fit a Series II.
I'll try to find the specifics later today...if nobody chimes in sooner
Cheers
DD
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Geneo:
Was the original you installed a new or recored unit? If so, I's check with the source. Warranty?
And, I suspect you mean, four row core, that is four rows of tubes in the core.
And, yeah, I see the shop's points.
Sometimes leaks in the core can be reached and soldered. Elegant at times, and not so much at times!!! The rub is the condition of the core,and that more holes are "on the way". They don't want to be blamed for that.
Unless you are a purist, an alloy radiator is a great possibility. Units designed for Camaro's or Mustangs, I dimly recall some using them.
In LUMP land, many are found.....
The discussion of brass vs alloy in radiators is alive and well.
And, yes, $550.00 is "reasonable" in today's world.
Cores are not cores. Look into that In your world, you need the best you can get. I recall my 118 F days there.....
Carl
Was the original you installed a new or recored unit? If so, I's check with the source. Warranty?
And, I suspect you mean, four row core, that is four rows of tubes in the core.
And, yeah, I see the shop's points.
Sometimes leaks in the core can be reached and soldered. Elegant at times, and not so much at times!!! The rub is the condition of the core,and that more holes are "on the way". They don't want to be blamed for that.
Unless you are a purist, an alloy radiator is a great possibility. Units designed for Camaro's or Mustangs, I dimly recall some using them.
In LUMP land, many are found.....
The discussion of brass vs alloy in radiators is alive and well.
And, yes, $550.00 is "reasonable" in today's world.
Cores are not cores. Look into that In your world, you need the best you can get. I recall my 118 F days there.....
Carl
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Geneo:
Or is it the lighter weight of the alloy radiator that appeals to racers ?
Our salons are heavy and weight seems not an issue.
But, the cooling capacity of an alloy core vs a brass core lingers on, at least in some minds.
and, the alloy/plastic units re "throw aways", while brass units can often be repaired.
Not that I have any bias as to an alloy unit. They work and the price is surely enticing.
The racer catalogs offer genric units that are downright pretty, but, a tad pricey.
Carl
Or is it the lighter weight of the alloy radiator that appeals to racers ?
Our salons are heavy and weight seems not an issue.
But, the cooling capacity of an alloy core vs a brass core lingers on, at least in some minds.
and, the alloy/plastic units re "throw aways", while brass units can often be repaired.
Not that I have any bias as to an alloy unit. They work and the price is surely enticing.
The racer catalogs offer genric units that are downright pretty, but, a tad pricey.
Carl
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that price is highway robbery. Contact David at Everyday XJ to see what he has. If no cigar, and you can afford Aluminio, contact Rock Browning at Porsche, Ferrari, Mercedes A/C Kits | RetroAir Inc. and see what he has.
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Geneo:
Many claim that added rows are a victim of diminishing returns.
And, some will say that three alloy rows match or beat folur brass ones.
Of course, others differ.
Think, heat exchange. How many BTU's do the engines develop. HP production is a clue. Then how many F' are excess to be swapped in to the ambient. Engine temp vs ambient.
Or merely, engine to engine. If it will cool a 360 chev, it will cool a 4.2 Jaguar. Or if it will cool a 4.6 Mustang, it will cool a 4.2 jaguar.
And, Jaguar cooling systems are maginal at best. Gotta be in top condition, especialy in hot climes like yours.
Camaro's and Mustangs not know for heat issues, jaguars ????
Any of the aformentioned will work,
Carl
Many claim that added rows are a victim of diminishing returns.
And, some will say that three alloy rows match or beat folur brass ones.
Of course, others differ.
Think, heat exchange. How many BTU's do the engines develop. HP production is a clue. Then how many F' are excess to be swapped in to the ambient. Engine temp vs ambient.
Or merely, engine to engine. If it will cool a 360 chev, it will cool a 4.2 Jaguar. Or if it will cool a 4.6 Mustang, it will cool a 4.2 jaguar.
And, Jaguar cooling systems are maginal at best. Gotta be in top condition, especialy in hot climes like yours.
Camaro's and Mustangs not know for heat issues, jaguars ????
Any of the aformentioned will work,
Carl
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