Series III engine and BW66 transmission - worth anything?
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Series III engine and BW66 transmission - worth anything?
"Ran when parked" 20 years ago (and ran briefly on starter fluid last week) 1983 series III engine with 90k miles. Is it worth anything to put it up on craigslist, or scrap value only? I've decided to swap to an LS engine and trans, just wondering if these are worth anything for parts and to recoup a little of the swap cost.
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bill70j (07-10-2017)
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Hi Cabel...
Scrap is essentially worthless now, about 4 cents per pound in our area, so I don't even take that into consideration any longer...
My philosophy on engines is simple.. Is it something I'd want to put directly into my own car given the amount of work and time it takes to do the swap, or would I want to do a refurbishment of the engine prior to reinstall? That makes a lot of difference on the pricing, especially if it has to be shipped.
From my own experience, you'd do better selling it in parts than as a whole unit, but then again you have to figure your time into the equation. The head has some value to it, as well as bits off the engine.. In the past couple of years I've had more requests for engine blocks as some cracks are starting to show between the cylinders, but then again that requires the expense of a cleaning and Magnaflux prior to shipping out, and a loss if it doesn't pass...
At 90K miles, I'd suspect a head gasket replacement is coming up on a running daily driver, so it may be more of a consideration on a car that has sat for 20yrs...
For transmissions that have to be shipped I almost always consider them rebuildable cores.. but if you can sell them locally it may be worth taking a chance it's OK..
You always have to consider the question as to why it was parked 20 years ago if it was operational...
So there are considerations.. but if you can find a buyer locally who's looking for a project, it may benefit your upcoming project..
Cheers,
David
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Scrap is essentially worthless now, about 4 cents per pound in our area, so I don't even take that into consideration any longer...
My philosophy on engines is simple.. Is it something I'd want to put directly into my own car given the amount of work and time it takes to do the swap, or would I want to do a refurbishment of the engine prior to reinstall? That makes a lot of difference on the pricing, especially if it has to be shipped.
From my own experience, you'd do better selling it in parts than as a whole unit, but then again you have to figure your time into the equation. The head has some value to it, as well as bits off the engine.. In the past couple of years I've had more requests for engine blocks as some cracks are starting to show between the cylinders, but then again that requires the expense of a cleaning and Magnaflux prior to shipping out, and a loss if it doesn't pass...
At 90K miles, I'd suspect a head gasket replacement is coming up on a running daily driver, so it may be more of a consideration on a car that has sat for 20yrs...
For transmissions that have to be shipped I almost always consider them rebuildable cores.. but if you can sell them locally it may be worth taking a chance it's OK..
You always have to consider the question as to why it was parked 20 years ago if it was operational...
So there are considerations.. but if you can find a buyer locally who's looking for a project, it may benefit your upcoming project..
Cheers,
David
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Yeah, David has it down pat.
I might add a couple of thoughts. For the thing as a chunk, the local market is everything. When my DOHC at about 115 miles went down, no one wanted it's heathy BW 66. I ended up giving the engine and trans still coupled away free. The guy that took "collected" old Jaguar stuff.
I did sell and shop off various smaller stuff. Radiator, shroud, alternator, distributor, shift tower, AC compressor, engine fan, aux fan, etc. So, all in all not too bad...
I gave away the drive shaft to a fellow Jaguar owner.
Still have some of it. Air pump, no one wants them! Air body, odd, it is still here, as well as the starter. The latter promised long ago, but not picked up???
With abundant back sight, I might have fixed the DOHC!!! I kinda liked t!!!!
Carl l
I might add a couple of thoughts. For the thing as a chunk, the local market is everything. When my DOHC at about 115 miles went down, no one wanted it's heathy BW 66. I ended up giving the engine and trans still coupled away free. The guy that took "collected" old Jaguar stuff.
I did sell and shop off various smaller stuff. Radiator, shroud, alternator, distributor, shift tower, AC compressor, engine fan, aux fan, etc. So, all in all not too bad...
I gave away the drive shaft to a fellow Jaguar owner.
Still have some of it. Air pump, no one wants them! Air body, odd, it is still here, as well as the starter. The latter promised long ago, but not picked up???
With abundant back sight, I might have fixed the DOHC!!! I kinda liked t!!!!
Carl l
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ronbros (07-09-2017)
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I put it in a cardboard box and UPS shipped it 1500 miles from here at a very reasonable price.
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Actually, no ! Not the 'hottest" of critters in my decades. But, it was adequate for the local freeways. On it's last day, I was a bit concerned over it's ability to "hang" with fast traffic on east bound on CA's 580 Altamount pass. It did just fine.
In the 60's I handled SOCAL freeways with 36HP VW Beetles. The just over 100 HP Corvairs seemed "hot'.
But, no doubt, my Lt1 powered 83 XJ can match or better most !!
My venerable 94 Jeep Grand Cherokee, not so much, but under 50 mph, quite lively.
Just use what is one has. Old racer mantra...
Carl
In the 60's I handled SOCAL freeways with 36HP VW Beetles. The just over 100 HP Corvairs seemed "hot'.
But, no doubt, my Lt1 powered 83 XJ can match or better most !!
My venerable 94 Jeep Grand Cherokee, not so much, but under 50 mph, quite lively.
Just use what is one has. Old racer mantra...
Carl
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Scratching my head here - have your highway / freeway speed limits changed? Last time I was there (CA) you could only poodle along at max. 55 or 65mph! Similar to ours, such freeway limits are ridiculous. The wind could blow us along at those speeds, I struggle to keep my 4.2 within the limit!
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Scratching my head here - have your highway / freeway speed limits changed? Last time I was there (CA) you could only poodle along at max. 55 or 65mph! Similar to ours, such freeway limits are ridiculous. The wind could blow us along at those speeds, I struggle to keep my 4.2 within the limit!
That said, I'd hate to have to drive the xj6 at 85 or 90 for a couple hours stretch.
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Our *official* upper limit in this state is 110kph / 68mph (although the NT has some "no limit" highways through the desert). Many ignore the limits, although the official revenue raisers are having an increasing love affair with their camera's at our expense!
That aside, I've never felt any shortcomings in the Jag's acceleration or cruising speed abilities, quite the opposite in fact. She is in fine fettle though!