What's the best way to test a mass airflow sensor on an '87?
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Mine is a 86 XJ6. I suppose they may have changed to a mass airflow sensor in 87, but mine is a simple airflow flap operating a potentiometer. Mass airflow would need a hot wire or something to evaluate the mass of the air flowing past, right?
I've not seen any data on the resistance range to be expected from the airflow sensor, but I would expect that if there is a smooth change in resistance on operation it's probably good.
I've not seen any data on the resistance range to be expected from the airflow sensor, but I would expect that if there is a smooth change in resistance on operation it's probably good.
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I've not seen any data on the resistance range to be expected from the airflow sensor, but I would expect that if there is a smooth change in resistance on operation it's probably good.
Back in the day I reckon the dealers were provided with some sort of test equipment, along the lines of the EpiTest kit. These typically were plug-in test boxes with, in essence, "good" and "no good" lights. Finding this equipment today, in actual working condition, would be a real treat
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Mine is a 86 XJ6. I suppose they may have changed to a mass airflow sensor in 87, but mine is a simple airflow flap operating a potentiometer. Mass airflow would need a hot wire or something to evaluate the mass of the air flowing past, right?
I've not seen any data on the resistance range to be expected from the airflow sensor, but I would expect that if there is a smooth change in resistance on operation it's probably good.
I've not seen any data on the resistance range to be expected from the airflow sensor, but I would expect that if there is a smooth change in resistance on operation it's probably good.
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There is another obscure thing: in the trunk forward right there are a a couple of pink wires and a pink-blue wire. the K wires are connected together and the KU is on another connector. These go to the most frequently not present high altitude switch. Lore is that it was determined to be unnecessary so they simply stopped installing the switch. The K wire is the signal from the airflow meter to the ECU. The two wires (one to the ECU, the other to the airflow meter) are joined at the connector to make the circuit. The altitude switch would apply the same signal to pin 12 on the ECU when the car ventures above something like 4000 ft msl.
On my car, lacking the switch, the two wires had lost the connector and were twisted together by some past owner. I didn't like the look of that so I disconnected them, cut the ends off to clean it up, then left it and forgot about it because the car was in the shop having the valves renewed or something like that. When we finally started the car again after some time it would nearly not run at all with a massively rich mixture. We spend days troubleshooting then I remembered the wires. I reconnected them and it was fixed.
If that circuit is broken, the ECU lacks a signal from the airflow meter, and assumes infinite air coming into the engine requiring as much fuel as possible.
A rare occurrence to have a technician disconnect wires without knowing what function they perform, but.........
On my car, lacking the switch, the two wires had lost the connector and were twisted together by some past owner. I didn't like the look of that so I disconnected them, cut the ends off to clean it up, then left it and forgot about it because the car was in the shop having the valves renewed or something like that. When we finally started the car again after some time it would nearly not run at all with a massively rich mixture. We spend days troubleshooting then I remembered the wires. I reconnected them and it was fixed.
If that circuit is broken, the ECU lacks a signal from the airflow meter, and assumes infinite air coming into the engine requiring as much fuel as possible.
A rare occurrence to have a technician disconnect wires without knowing what function they perform, but.........
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Jaguar put out a Fuel Injection Introduction that explained the components pretty well. It doesn't explain exact values, but does explain what's going on with the Air Flow Meter. I'll attach those pages.
It seems like similar over fueling issues were caused by a faulty coolant temperature sensor. That's a pretty cheap and easy thing to replace to rule that possibility out...
It seems like 20-25 mpg is a pretty lofty goal for the Series 3 though.. I think 18 is pretty well accepted.... But yeah with 11-13, something is going on...
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It seems like similar over fueling issues were caused by a faulty coolant temperature sensor. That's a pretty cheap and easy thing to replace to rule that possibility out...
It seems like 20-25 mpg is a pretty lofty goal for the Series 3 though.. I think 18 is pretty well accepted.... But yeah with 11-13, something is going on...
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David
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I neglected to mention the coolant temp switch was replaced about a year ago, along with the fuel pressure regulator.
Is there a way to know what values we should be seeing from the airflow meter, coolant temp switch, etc.? We can do diagnostic work but we don't know what values we're looking for.
Jess
Is there a way to know what values we should be seeing from the airflow meter, coolant temp switch, etc.? We can do diagnostic work but we don't know what values we're looking for.
Jess
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