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Old 09-21-2021, 08:32 AM
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Hi guys,

Today I tried to do a "toe" adjustment on the Series 1, after finally getting the castor and camber settings to my liking.
With the front wheels on slip plates, I noticed slight movement in each front wheel, when grabbing @ the 9 & 3 o'clock positions and rocking back & forth.
The steering rack was centralised and "locked" in position as per the factory manual instructions. Wheel bearings are fine with no measurable play.
Given toe-in is specified at 1.6 to 3.2 mm, probably a lot less than the above detected movement, I now figure I'm wasting my time.
Please tell me I'm not due for a rack replacement
 
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I doubt it.

If the rack is locked with the pin in the hole, then the rack innards are locked.

I suspect:
rack bushes,
tie rod ends,
or rack ends themselves.

Nothing else moves with that pin inserted.
 
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:53 AM
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tie rods. Replace them.
 
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As Jose says, start with the easiest thing first. If that doesn't work, you can always get more complex and expensive later.
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Old 09-22-2021, 12:53 AM
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If you get a helper to do the rocking, you should be able to see, or at least feel, where the movement is.
 
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Old 09-22-2021, 06:18 AM
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Thanks everyone. I'll get the missus to do the rocking, once all the housework's done.
(Ducks for cover)

Pete
 

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Old 09-22-2021, 07:56 AM
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I've used the tried & trusted "string" method for checking my toe.
Easy as, if you have a lift/hoist.
I welded captive nuts to the ramps, so the posts (adjustable) just bolt on.


 
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Had a problem identical to this on a Honda civic. Changed the tie rods to no avail.. Turned out to be the inner tie rod that was worn. Special wrench to remove that inner nut!
 
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Old 09-23-2021, 12:58 PM
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replacing the INNER tie rods in a rack is no big deal, you can rent the special tool at Autozone, O'Reilly Auto Parts, Advance Auto Parts, etc.

Here's a good demonstration:

 
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I'm wondering Where he got a new tie rod end that wasn't Pre-lubed and came with hole for grease fitting!
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Old 09-24-2021, 09:44 AM
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I was wondering where he got the INNER tie rods Elinor.
 
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Originally Posted by Jose
I was wondering where he got the INNER tie rods Elinor.
That was no mystery to me, Jose, we changed the Inners on Nix's rack when we did all that work in 2014-2015.
I can dig through the File to find the invoice If you're curious.
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Old 09-24-2021, 01:28 PM
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Elinor my rack is fine, I just did not know that you can get the inner tie rods by themselves.

However if you find the part numbers, you could post them in the HOW TO section, it would sure help everybody in the future. Thanks.
 
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Old 09-24-2021, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose
Elinor my rack is fine, I just did not know that you can get the inner tie rods by themselves.

However if you find the part numbers, you could post them in the HOW TO section, it would sure help everybody in the future. Thanks.
We got the Inner tie rod from O'Reilly, but upon looking up the part number, it seems they no longer carry only that part. The number now refers to a complete rebuilt rack.

DRAT!!
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Old 09-25-2021, 03:46 AM
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Hi everyone,

This is what I have bought

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15243416...m=152434168801



Turns out that, after absorbing the excellent advice from all, I discovered my outer tie rod on the RHS, and inner tie rod of the LHS both have play in them, so for about $200 Ozzie dollars I can completely overhaul both sides. As for Elinor's query, the outers have the greasing valves which is what I prefer too. BTW, the "bible" says they can all be replaced with the rack in situ (thank you God) and the big nut for the inners appears easily accessible, so no special tools required. Thanks Jose for the video anyway.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jUgAA...E0N/s-l500.jpg
 

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Old 09-25-2021, 04:02 AM
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Here is the ebay listing for the inners. Being aftermarket, I guess the part numbers what not mean a lot in other countries.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/18445260...gAAOSwqvRfZE0N
 
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Might be an idea to give her a hand with the house work so she can help you in the shop work???
 
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