XJ6 New and Improved Boot-Lid Hinge (concept)
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Extremely interesting. I was trying to figure out the concept until I saw the pictures!! The thousand word thing is true. Got it. Clever, for sure.
As of yesterday, my boot worked just fine. Opens far enough for me to do my things. Stays up. No fix needed. So, I will not.
I do admire the strut concept. Tempting ! Resisted, at least fore now.
Added note: I load and unload from the back. Never occurred to me to side load/unload.
Learned something new, always good.
Carl .
As of yesterday, my boot worked just fine. Opens far enough for me to do my things. Stays up. No fix needed. So, I will not.
I do admire the strut concept. Tempting ! Resisted, at least fore now.
Added note: I load and unload from the back. Never occurred to me to side load/unload.
Learned something new, always good.
Carl .
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Update on XJ6 Trunk/Boot-lid extended opening project and survey:
1. How many have a problem with weak springs. Estimated Kit Price: $30-40? (Strut, bracket end fittings and hardware)
2. How many would want the 50% increase opening capability (69-70 degrees, up from 41). Estimated kit price: $145-160? (machined hinge/bracket, struts, end fittings, bearings and hardware)
3. How many would want booth Kits? $175-200?
This is not a commitment, just and indication of interest.
I have got the prototype geometry to work on the combination Hinge/Bracket with two 11" x 40 lbs gas struts. On level ground the Lid will stay open (68-70 degrees) hands free and without a broomstick. The tolerances are sensitive, 1/8" at the hinge is more than 1" at the lip. (16 lbs at the hinge is only 2 lbs at the trunk lip). The 40 lb strut has no margin for wind or non-level parking, so final configuration should be 55-60 lbs struts. The bottom of the strut mounts in an existing 5/16" hole in OEM hinge arm and the top of strut to one of three holes in new hinge/bracket.
Rgds David
Projected Combination Hinge/Bracket RH & LH
Full open..69 degrees, hands free. two 11" struts mounted to OEM hinge arm
OEM hinge arm with existing 5/16 mounting hole for strut end fitting
Single Strut OEM Spring Assist. (final installation would have strut on other side of arm)
Optional cover for Spring Assist strut
1. How many have a problem with weak springs. Estimated Kit Price: $30-40? (Strut, bracket end fittings and hardware)
2. How many would want the 50% increase opening capability (69-70 degrees, up from 41). Estimated kit price: $145-160? (machined hinge/bracket, struts, end fittings, bearings and hardware)
3. How many would want booth Kits? $175-200?
This is not a commitment, just and indication of interest.
I have got the prototype geometry to work on the combination Hinge/Bracket with two 11" x 40 lbs gas struts. On level ground the Lid will stay open (68-70 degrees) hands free and without a broomstick. The tolerances are sensitive, 1/8" at the hinge is more than 1" at the lip. (16 lbs at the hinge is only 2 lbs at the trunk lip). The 40 lb strut has no margin for wind or non-level parking, so final configuration should be 55-60 lbs struts. The bottom of the strut mounts in an existing 5/16" hole in OEM hinge arm and the top of strut to one of three holes in new hinge/bracket.
Rgds David
Projected Combination Hinge/Bracket RH & LH
Full open..69 degrees, hands free. two 11" struts mounted to OEM hinge arm
OEM hinge arm with existing 5/16 mounting hole for strut end fitting
Single Strut OEM Spring Assist. (final installation would have strut on other side of arm)
Optional cover for Spring Assist strut
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That's What I'm Talking About!!
Update on XJ6 Trunk/Boot-lid extended opening project and survey:
1. How many have a problem with weak springs. Estimated Kit Price: $30-40? (Strut, bracket end fittings and hardware)
2. How many would want the 50% increase opening capability (69-70 degrees, up from 41). Estimated kit price: $145-160? (machined hinge/bracket, struts, end fittings, bearings and hardware)
3. How many would want booth Kits? $175-200?
This is not a commitment, just and indication of interest.
I have got the prototype geometry to work on the combination Hinge/Bracket with two 11" x 40 lbs gas struts. On level ground the Lid will stay open (68-70 degrees) hands free and without a broomstick. The tolerances are sensitive, 1/8" at the hinge is more than 1" at the lip. (16 lbs at the hinge is only 2 lbs at the trunk lip). The 40 lb strut has no margin for wind or non-level parking, so final configuration should be 55-60 lbs struts. The bottom of the strut mounts in an existing 5/16" hole in OEM hinge arm and the top of strut to one of three holes in new hinge/bracket.
Rgds David
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Full open..69 degrees, hands free. two 11" struts mounted to OEM hinge arm
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1. How many have a problem with weak springs. Estimated Kit Price: $30-40? (Strut, bracket end fittings and hardware)
2. How many would want the 50% increase opening capability (69-70 degrees, up from 41). Estimated kit price: $145-160? (machined hinge/bracket, struts, end fittings, bearings and hardware)
3. How many would want booth Kits? $175-200?
This is not a commitment, just and indication of interest.
I have got the prototype geometry to work on the combination Hinge/Bracket with two 11" x 40 lbs gas struts. On level ground the Lid will stay open (68-70 degrees) hands free and without a broomstick. The tolerances are sensitive, 1/8" at the hinge is more than 1" at the lip. (16 lbs at the hinge is only 2 lbs at the trunk lip). The 40 lb strut has no margin for wind or non-level parking, so final configuration should be 55-60 lbs struts. The bottom of the strut mounts in an existing 5/16" hole in OEM hinge arm and the top of strut to one of three holes in new hinge/bracket.
Rgds David
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Full open..69 degrees, hands free. two 11" struts mounted to OEM hinge arm
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Put me down for all the stuff to make this happen.
HAHA!
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New and improved XJ6 Boot-Lid Hinge
Info from an E-bay listing for a used S3 OEM hinge assembly, the only difference between a XJ6 S1, S2 and S3 hinge assembly is the trunk light switch and striker placement.
Rgds
David
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Elinor has graciously tested the 11" Spring Assist Strut on Her S2, and found: "Series 2 trunk hinges have shorter clearance to the trunk floor than do Series 3 by one inch. This means the strut you sent will not work on Series 2 cars"
(Thank you Elinor)
See pictures below, Can you measure distance from 5/16' hole in Hinge arm to floor on your S1.
My S3 is 11.25". This may not effect the extended opening hinge/bracket project, but I do want to address any difference between models.
Thanks
David
Full extension of 11" Strut on S3
11.25" height of attach hole in OEM hinge arm S3
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New and improved XJ6 Boot/Trunk-Lid Hinge
If you could check these two dimensions on your S2, it would be helpful... Thanks much
If any one has an S1, would appreciate these dimensions also...
Rgds
David
Center line of Bolt to C.L. of Hole
C.L. of hole to Trunk shelf at max current opening
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