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Thanks for the info, jose. The reason i was trying to buy wire wheels is because i am trying to restore it to look like how my grandpa had it. But, with the price of wire wheels i think i will just skip that. What kind of wheels would you put on it? Tire rack is useless, so i cant find a websight that shows how wheels look.
And the reason i thought wire wheels would be $2000 is because that is what ken karr told me it would cost.
And the reason i thought wire wheels would be $2000 is because that is what ken karr told me it would cost.
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Wayne, scratch that, Moss does not carry wires for the XJ. I thought I saw them, but no.
Dayton Wire Wheels are $2,000. per set, so Ken was right, everything is up there in the $2,000. range, and that's because auto parts have skyrocketedsince last year.
For example, a cheap, made in china, Heater Valve for the XJ-6 which sold for $8.99 is now $23.00, same cheap valve. I don't understand why.
check out these original Jaguar wheels on eBay right now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FACTO...31110011r27655
Those are XJ-S wheels. They look nice in the XJ-6, and being chromed, I think the price is good.
I'll keep checking forused wire wheels and post here if I find any for sale.
Jose
Dayton Wire Wheels are $2,000. per set, so Ken was right, everything is up there in the $2,000. range, and that's because auto parts have skyrocketedsince last year.
For example, a cheap, made in china, Heater Valve for the XJ-6 which sold for $8.99 is now $23.00, same cheap valve. I don't understand why.
check out these original Jaguar wheels on eBay right now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FACTO...31110011r27655
Those are XJ-S wheels. They look nice in the XJ-6, and being chromed, I think the price is good.
I'll keep checking forused wire wheels and post here if I find any for sale.
Jose
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I must have misread the auction description.
Iremember a guy locally who was selling a set of Dunlop 70 chromed wires last year, removed from his '85 XJ-6. Included tires. He wanted $1.500.if not sold, maybe the price came down. I'll check.
in what state are you located?
here's a pic.
Iremember a guy locally who was selling a set of Dunlop 70 chromed wires last year, removed from his '85 XJ-6. Included tires. He wanted $1.500.if not sold, maybe the price came down. I'll check.
in what state are you located?
here's a pic.
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Greetings Wayne,
The wheels shown in the eBay advert are 15" Lattice wheels, fitted as OEM on 1988 through at least 1992 Jaguar XJS. They are a direct fit on your 1985 XJ6, and I have seen many owners who selectedLattice wheelsas replacements.
I have a set of these Lattice wheels with the original painted finish, not chromed. I also have a virtually new set of Starfish wheels, which were '82 through '87 OEM for XJS.There are plenty of XJ6 running around with these too, some customers paid to upgrade to the XJS wheels and ditch the original Kents when they bought their cars new.
Jaguar never sold a wire wheel for Series III XJ6, all were dealer installed. Some dealers swapped every car before offering them for sale. Daytons are the only brand to buy, and a set shows up on eBay every now and then. Keep in mind that you will also need a set of the appropriate lug nuts, center spinners (early, outlawed) or center caps, and a suitable lug wrench. The lug nuts and center caps are expensive to buy newtoo, so make sure they are included if you find a good used set of Daytons. The early ones are 60 spoke, which were replaced by a 72 spoke version. Aim for the latter if you are shopping used wheels,they are more durable. If the wheels are Truespoke or any other brand, don't waste your money. If they require rechroming, don't waste your money...that costfor each isclose to the purchase price of a new wire wheel.
I have seen an awful lot of awful looking chromed factory alloywheels after 5 plus years of normal use. The plating deteriorates from corrosion caused by road salt and brake dust: in addition to getting ugly, they develop problems with sealing at the rim flange for the tire bead.
Maybe the plating on the eBay lattice wheels is improved, or guaranteed, I didn't read the whole ad. The price stopped me cold.
Good luck with your project, I read that you have everything else you need to complete it so I won't make any additional sales pitches.
The wheels shown in the eBay advert are 15" Lattice wheels, fitted as OEM on 1988 through at least 1992 Jaguar XJS. They are a direct fit on your 1985 XJ6, and I have seen many owners who selectedLattice wheelsas replacements.
I have a set of these Lattice wheels with the original painted finish, not chromed. I also have a virtually new set of Starfish wheels, which were '82 through '87 OEM for XJS.There are plenty of XJ6 running around with these too, some customers paid to upgrade to the XJS wheels and ditch the original Kents when they bought their cars new.
Jaguar never sold a wire wheel for Series III XJ6, all were dealer installed. Some dealers swapped every car before offering them for sale. Daytons are the only brand to buy, and a set shows up on eBay every now and then. Keep in mind that you will also need a set of the appropriate lug nuts, center spinners (early, outlawed) or center caps, and a suitable lug wrench. The lug nuts and center caps are expensive to buy newtoo, so make sure they are included if you find a good used set of Daytons. The early ones are 60 spoke, which were replaced by a 72 spoke version. Aim for the latter if you are shopping used wheels,they are more durable. If the wheels are Truespoke or any other brand, don't waste your money. If they require rechroming, don't waste your money...that costfor each isclose to the purchase price of a new wire wheel.
I have seen an awful lot of awful looking chromed factory alloywheels after 5 plus years of normal use. The plating deteriorates from corrosion caused by road salt and brake dust: in addition to getting ugly, they develop problems with sealing at the rim flange for the tire bead.
Maybe the plating on the eBay lattice wheels is improved, or guaranteed, I didn't read the whole ad. The price stopped me cold.
Good luck with your project, I read that you have everything else you need to complete it so I won't make any additional sales pitches.
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The state i am located in is North Dakota. There is also a few parts i need that broke when i removed them so i could sand the whole car. I need new emblems and i think it is called the air filter vent, the vent right in front of the windshield. I also need new headliner material.
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Greetings Wayne,
Last point first. If you go to wlsheadliner.com, you can purchase the fabric and spray adhesive to recover your headliner. I have not purchased from them, as I was afraid that material folded for shippingwould show creases when installed: many of their customers report that this is not a problem.
JoAnn fabrics is a national chain, and some of them apparently still sell an approprite color of the headliner material. My local stores have only sold weird colors for years now... I'll pass on the chance to install a red headliner every time.
The cowl grilles are difficult to remove without breaking the studs, you have to use a 90 degree seal pick at the base of the stud and pull straight up. Even then, they sometimes break. So good used ones are rare, and the chrome plating is oftenpitted on those as well.
Click on my screen name and message meif you want me to price you the new parts: I have used badges, but I'm guessing you'd want to plug new ones on a beautifully painted car.
Last point first. If you go to wlsheadliner.com, you can purchase the fabric and spray adhesive to recover your headliner. I have not purchased from them, as I was afraid that material folded for shippingwould show creases when installed: many of their customers report that this is not a problem.
JoAnn fabrics is a national chain, and some of them apparently still sell an approprite color of the headliner material. My local stores have only sold weird colors for years now... I'll pass on the chance to install a red headliner every time.
The cowl grilles are difficult to remove without breaking the studs, you have to use a 90 degree seal pick at the base of the stud and pull straight up. Even then, they sometimes break. So good used ones are rare, and the chrome plating is oftenpitted on those as well.
Click on my screen name and message meif you want me to price you the new parts: I have used badges, but I'm guessing you'd want to plug new ones on a beautifully painted car.
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I ordered headliner material fromBAS Ltd., who sells original-specification Jaguar materials. Mine was sent rolled and they sent enough to do the door pockets, and I still had leftover material to do the trunk's 2 Vent Flaps, and thetrunk lid'schannel Vent Flaps, and I still have a roll of headliner material leftover for other projects. The headliner biscuit, (aka fiberglass Form), will come out through the front passenger door. It is flexible enough to bend. That's how I did mine. You'll need two cans of 3M Headliner Adhesive. Don't try to change the headliner inside the car, you will regret it. This is an outside, away from the car, job.
Removing all the seats makes for a comfortable working environment.
http://www.basjaguartrim.com
Theway Iremove the cowl vent grille, is to use Flossing String, (nylon string). Double it up for strength and slide it under the edges of the cowl grille, lifting-pulling a little ata time on each side. If the Mounting Pin breaks, it can be fixed with aDremmel tool. Drill a tiny hole on each half of the broken pin, break a sewing needle in two, andepoxy half the needleon each half of the pin. When reinstalling it, apply anti-seize on each pin, it will permanently lubricate the pin and the bushing, making it easier to remove in the future.
I don't have a used cowl grille, but I have the diamond wire mesh if you need it too.
Jos
Removing all the seats makes for a comfortable working environment.
http://www.basjaguartrim.com
Theway Iremove the cowl vent grille, is to use Flossing String, (nylon string). Double it up for strength and slide it under the edges of the cowl grille, lifting-pulling a little ata time on each side. If the Mounting Pin breaks, it can be fixed with aDremmel tool. Drill a tiny hole on each half of the broken pin, break a sewing needle in two, andepoxy half the needleon each half of the pin. When reinstalling it, apply anti-seize on each pin, it will permanently lubricate the pin and the bushing, making it easier to remove in the future.
I don't have a used cowl grille, but I have the diamond wire mesh if you need it too.
Jos
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