1996 XJS RH Blower Fan will not stop
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1996 XJS RH Blower Fan will not stop
I have an interesting problem. Right side blower fan will not stop running even when the car is shut off. I have to go and take the fuse out the fuse box to stop the fan otherwise battery will be drained. I have seen similar posts about a relay getting stuck in an open position thus it keeps running since the fuse feeds power to it.
However I can't locate the relay that controls the right blower motor fan. to add to the frustration it keeps bringing hot engine air. With summer heat it's becoming difficult.
Not sure if the same relay would effect the A/C control panel. The temperature and fan speed knobs don't respond as well.
Thank you
However I can't locate the relay that controls the right blower motor fan. to add to the frustration it keeps bringing hot engine air. With summer heat it's becoming difficult.
Not sure if the same relay would effect the A/C control panel. The temperature and fan speed knobs don't respond as well.
Thank you
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I have an interesting problem. Right side blower fan will not stop running even when the car is shut off. I have to go and take the fuse out the fuse box to stop the fan otherwise battery will be drained. I have seen similar posts about a relay getting stuck in an open position thus it keeps running since the fuse feeds power to it.
However I can't locate the relay that controls the right blower motor fan. to add to the frustration it keeps bringing hot engine air. With summer heat it's becoming difficult.
Not sure if the same relay would effect the A/C control panel. The temperature and fan speed knobs don't respond as well.
Thank you
However I can't locate the relay that controls the right blower motor fan. to add to the frustration it keeps bringing hot engine air. With summer heat it's becoming difficult.
Not sure if the same relay would effect the A/C control panel. The temperature and fan speed knobs don't respond as well.
Thank you
See wiring diagram.
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Sonny_D (05-29-2019)
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It's probably more likely the Darlington transistor on the fan housing, this is what makes it variable speed. It's possible to be the high speed relay, but it is only activated when full speed of the blower is called for.
I've only removed the drivers side to rebuild the board, with the passengers side you'll have to remove the airbag to access the bolts. That's not too difficult to do, just follow the manual and it's not too bad. Here is the procedure from a 1978 car, which is basically the same the only difference is you'll have no glovebox to assess the blower. Replacing The HVAC Blower Modules.
I've only removed the drivers side to rebuild the board, with the passengers side you'll have to remove the airbag to access the bolts. That's not too difficult to do, just follow the manual and it's not too bad. Here is the procedure from a 1978 car, which is basically the same the only difference is you'll have no glovebox to assess the blower. Replacing The HVAC Blower Modules.
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Sonny_D (05-29-2019)
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Here is a description of the rebuild process: Air conditioning blower control
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Sonny_D (05-29-2019)
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In fact I have not had the pleasure/displeasure of gaining access to the blower, darlington transistor or relay for each blower motor so not familiar with its access. I was helping a chap on Facebook where his was also running on high speed with ignition off. For that one, the opposite side relay was found rusted and possibly causing a short to turn the opposite side on all the time.
Yes, possibly the darlington transistor, but would not think it would fail to the on position, but more to the open position not passing any voltage to the blower.. I would start with changing or swapping relays if you know how to access.
Perhaps the chap is on this forum as well and can provide some access to the relay assistance.
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Sonny_D (05-29-2019)
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You will have to remove the blower as the relay and Darlington are inside the blower assembly.
Check the relay first as it is easy but my guess is the Darlinton has failed short circuit which will turn the blower on all the time even with the ignition off. If it is the Darlinton you can substitute a MJ11016 available from RS Components.
This is a circuit diagram I made from my blower when I had it out for repair.
Check the relay first as it is easy but my guess is the Darlinton has failed short circuit which will turn the blower on all the time even with the ignition off. If it is the Darlinton you can substitute a MJ11016 available from RS Components.
This is a circuit diagram I made from my blower when I had it out for repair.
Last edited by warrjon; 05-29-2019 at 06:33 AM.
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Sonny_D (05-29-2019)
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You will have to remove the blower as the relay and Darlington are inside the blower assembly.
Check the relay first as it is easy but my guess is the Darlinton has failed short circuit which will turn the blower on all the time even with the ignition off. If it is the Darlinton you can substitute a MJ11016 available from RS Components.
This is a circuit diagram I made from my blower when I had it out for repair.
Check the relay first as it is easy but my guess is the Darlinton has failed short circuit which will turn the blower on all the time even with the ignition off. If it is the Darlinton you can substitute a MJ11016 available from RS Components.
This is a circuit diagram I made from my blower when I had it out for repair.
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Sonny_D (05-29-2019)
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That is the same circuit just laid out differently I missed the dot on my circuit. I only drew this for my reference when I repaired my blower
The relay would not turn the blower on if it wasn't connected between the DT and motor.
I have just updated my cct
The relay would not turn the blower on if it wasn't connected between the DT and motor.
I have just updated my cct
Last edited by warrjon; 05-29-2019 at 06:34 AM.
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Hello Everyone,
Does anyone have a link on how to remove the passenger side air bag cover and the airbag assembly itself on the 1996 XJS Convertible? I started to work on removing passenger side blower motor but have no idea how to remove the air bag assembly. i think it needs to be removed in order to access the blower fan motor on the passenger side
Thank you
Does anyone have a link on how to remove the passenger side air bag cover and the airbag assembly itself on the 1996 XJS Convertible? I started to work on removing passenger side blower motor but have no idea how to remove the air bag assembly. i think it needs to be removed in order to access the blower fan motor on the passenger side
Thank you
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Hello Everyone,
Does anyone have a link on how to remove the passenger side air bag cover and the airbag assembly itself on the 1996 XJS Convertible? I started to work on removing passenger side blower motor but have no idea how to remove the air bag assembly. i think it needs to be removed in order to access the blower fan motor on the passenger side
Thank you
Does anyone have a link on how to remove the passenger side air bag cover and the airbag assembly itself on the 1996 XJS Convertible? I started to work on removing passenger side blower motor but have no idea how to remove the air bag assembly. i think it needs to be removed in order to access the blower fan motor on the passenger side
Thank you
if you need a new evaporator and new wood paneling for your airbag this is. the time to get those things done. The entire dash has to come out to replace those two pieces as well and you don’t want to go in there again
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Warren,
Since you repaired your blower, are you able to confirm that the entire dash has to be removed to gain access to the passenger blower? I would like to believe one should be able to remove passenger airbag cover and assembly to gain access. Any and all help is much appreciated.
Thank you Sonny
Since you repaired your blower, are you able to confirm that the entire dash has to be removed to gain access to the passenger blower? I would like to believe one should be able to remove passenger airbag cover and assembly to gain access. Any and all help is much appreciated.
Thank you Sonny
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Here are the instructions for blower removal. I'd try and see if you can access the bolts without removing the airbag. However, if you do need to remove the airbag, here are the general instructions:
Make a small D shaped tool to disarm the drivers side airbag in the steering wheel. I used a piece of stainless steel tubing I had. Remove steering wheel. Remove the surround for climate control and radio. Remove radio. Remove switches for interior lights and remove trip computer ( 2 small bolts on the side) I think there are some small bolts holding the bottom of the dash assembly to the center console. Remove knee bolster and unplug the cabin temp sender. Locate the bolts holding the dash assembly to the body at the sides and remove dash. Then follow the instructions for removal of the passengers airbag.
Make a small D shaped tool to disarm the drivers side airbag in the steering wheel. I used a piece of stainless steel tubing I had. Remove steering wheel. Remove the surround for climate control and radio. Remove radio. Remove switches for interior lights and remove trip computer ( 2 small bolts on the side) I think there are some small bolts holding the bottom of the dash assembly to the center console. Remove knee bolster and unplug the cabin temp sender. Locate the bolts holding the dash assembly to the body at the sides and remove dash. Then follow the instructions for removal of the passengers airbag.
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