96 Convertible stall fix
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96 Convertible stall fix
Hi everyone
I had been having a persistent stalling/choking problem on my 96 XJS convertible that started up a few months ago. The car would be running fine at idle, parked - but when I drove it relatively soon after I got going - sometimes in the first 100 yards, sometimes after a mile or so - the car would suddenly completely choke and stall out. Sometimes I could get it restarted right away - sometimes not. It was mystifying and highly problematic. I left it parked for the last couple of months as I didn't have time to deal with the issue or get it towed to my garage so I was mostly just poking around the forum looking for clues.
The best thing I came across here is the attached page that came from the "Engine Management System S91.pdf" which is available via this link https://www.mediafire.com/file/6qsqj...m_S91.pdf/file
This graphic helped me locate what the heck all these different things are under the hood. Long story short - I noticed that the connection to the Mass Air Flow Sensor was - to put it in a word - wonky. The wiring to that sensor - easily found on the top of the air intake - has a clip with two little "ears" that must have somehow worn out with age - so the clip was connected to the MAF but you could literally pull it on and off without little resistance - the only thing holding it on was gravity and friction.
I noticed in my test drives that when I hit bumps or went over some railroad tracks - it triggered the stall. I put two and two together and used some zip ties to secure the MAF connector - and voila - no more stalling. The connector was "bouncing" when I hit any bumps and making the MAF connection temporarily fail causing an immediate stall.
Just FYI - this was a basic fix but I'm putting it here in case it helps anyone else. You can see my fancy ziptie solution in this photo!
from Engine Management System S91.pdf
I had been having a persistent stalling/choking problem on my 96 XJS convertible that started up a few months ago. The car would be running fine at idle, parked - but when I drove it relatively soon after I got going - sometimes in the first 100 yards, sometimes after a mile or so - the car would suddenly completely choke and stall out. Sometimes I could get it restarted right away - sometimes not. It was mystifying and highly problematic. I left it parked for the last couple of months as I didn't have time to deal with the issue or get it towed to my garage so I was mostly just poking around the forum looking for clues.
The best thing I came across here is the attached page that came from the "Engine Management System S91.pdf" which is available via this link https://www.mediafire.com/file/6qsqj...m_S91.pdf/file
This graphic helped me locate what the heck all these different things are under the hood. Long story short - I noticed that the connection to the Mass Air Flow Sensor was - to put it in a word - wonky. The wiring to that sensor - easily found on the top of the air intake - has a clip with two little "ears" that must have somehow worn out with age - so the clip was connected to the MAF but you could literally pull it on and off without little resistance - the only thing holding it on was gravity and friction.
I noticed in my test drives that when I hit bumps or went over some railroad tracks - it triggered the stall. I put two and two together and used some zip ties to secure the MAF connector - and voila - no more stalling. The connector was "bouncing" when I hit any bumps and making the MAF connection temporarily fail causing an immediate stall.
Just FYI - this was a basic fix but I'm putting it here in case it helps anyone else. You can see my fancy ziptie solution in this photo!
from Engine Management System S91.pdf
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Timeisrelative (03-24-2020)
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Hi everyone
I had been having a persistent stalling/choking problem on my 96 XJS convertible that started up a few months ago. The car would be running fine at idle, parked - but when I drove it relatively soon after I got going - sometimes in the first 100 yards, sometimes after a mile or so - the car would suddenly completely choke and stall out. Sometimes I could get it restarted right away - sometimes not. It was mystifying and highly problematic. I left it parked for the last couple of months as I didn't have time to deal with the issue or get it towed to my garage so I was mostly just poking around the forum looking for clues.
The best thing I came across here is the attached page that came from the "Engine Management System S91.pdf" which is available via this link https://www.mediafire.com/file/6qsqj...m_S91.pdf/file
This graphic helped me locate what the heck all these different things are under the hood. Long story short - I noticed that the connection to the Mass Air Flow Sensor was - to put it in a word - wonky. The wiring to that sensor - easily found on the top of the air intake - has a clip with two little "ears" that must have somehow worn out with age - so the clip was connected to the MAF but you could literally pull it on and off without little resistance - the only thing holding it on was gravity and friction.
I noticed in my test drives that when I hit bumps or went over some railroad tracks - it triggered the stall. I put two and two together and used some zip ties to secure the MAF connector - and voila - no more stalling. The connector was "bouncing" when I hit any bumps and making the MAF connection temporarily fail causing an immediate stall.
Just FYI - this was a basic fix but I'm putting it here in case it helps anyone else. You can see my fancy ziptie solution in this photo!
from Engine Management System S91.pdf
I had been having a persistent stalling/choking problem on my 96 XJS convertible that started up a few months ago. The car would be running fine at idle, parked - but when I drove it relatively soon after I got going - sometimes in the first 100 yards, sometimes after a mile or so - the car would suddenly completely choke and stall out. Sometimes I could get it restarted right away - sometimes not. It was mystifying and highly problematic. I left it parked for the last couple of months as I didn't have time to deal with the issue or get it towed to my garage so I was mostly just poking around the forum looking for clues.
The best thing I came across here is the attached page that came from the "Engine Management System S91.pdf" which is available via this link https://www.mediafire.com/file/6qsqj...m_S91.pdf/file
This graphic helped me locate what the heck all these different things are under the hood. Long story short - I noticed that the connection to the Mass Air Flow Sensor was - to put it in a word - wonky. The wiring to that sensor - easily found on the top of the air intake - has a clip with two little "ears" that must have somehow worn out with age - so the clip was connected to the MAF but you could literally pull it on and off without little resistance - the only thing holding it on was gravity and friction.
I noticed in my test drives that when I hit bumps or went over some railroad tracks - it triggered the stall. I put two and two together and used some zip ties to secure the MAF connector - and voila - no more stalling. The connector was "bouncing" when I hit any bumps and making the MAF connection temporarily fail causing an immediate stall.
Just FYI - this was a basic fix but I'm putting it here in case it helps anyone else. You can see my fancy ziptie solution in this photo!
from Engine Management System S91.pdf
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Greg in France (03-24-2020)
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Just to mention in case someone searches at some point, my 93 4.0 started shutting off here and there and after trouble shooting I found that if my ECM connectors moved a little it would shut down and not restart. I ended up using a small piece of foam mat and a piece of cardboard between the two connectors to keep them stable. Haven't had a problem since! Not sure if it's actually the connector or maybe a slight solder issue inside, but it's working. No it's not the "right fix" but it works
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