Which body is this XJRS 6.0 ?
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That is a TWR body kit not a Lister kit. Jaguar partnered with TWR as Ford did with Shelby. There was a menu of options from badging to a 6 liter and five speed manual. In my investigations it seems most of the options chosen were cosmetic. I have yet to come across one of these cars that had anything close to the full Monty.
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That's not a standard XJRS, TWR or Lister body kit on that car.
The cover over the rear side window blending into the rear 1/4 panel is quite unusual. And the rear wheel arch flare isn't standard Lister either. Neither are the wheels standard Lister components.
Needs more investigation!
Paul
The cover over the rear side window blending into the rear 1/4 panel is quite unusual. And the rear wheel arch flare isn't standard Lister either. Neither are the wheels standard Lister components.
Needs more investigation!
Paul
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My 5.3 has waffling on the side! I believe the blocks were identical on both size. If Lister have done up the engine all sorts of bits will be non-factory on the top of the engine.
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Lister gave a chassis number and a new engine number to all of the converted cars (There were a few early cars converted with some mechanical upgrades for which there are no records).
I've got a list of every one of the official cars starting at chassis 001LJ. together with its engine number (which indicates the engine size) and brief description of it's body style and colour.
If that's an official Lister, give me the chassis or engine number and I'll see what info I have.
Paul
I've got a list of every one of the official cars starting at chassis 001LJ. together with its engine number (which indicates the engine size) and brief description of it's body style and colour.
If that's an official Lister, give me the chassis or engine number and I'll see what info I have.
Paul
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ptsj1 thats interesting info, that gives me something about my 1978 XJS , RHD , last registered in UK around 1984/5?
when i pulled the engine it had a waffled block, i didnt know much about Jaguar at that time(maybr even now),
i already had a part built V12 ,USA version, but noticed at had no waffling sides!
but finished it up and put in the 78 XJS, still in it ,runs good no problems!
well when moving from Florida to Austin TEXAS , had three V12s, including UK version!\, all went to junk yard!
25 yrs ago you coudnt give them away, same with Jaguar cars,(1970s- 2000), HEY times change, shoulda woulda,coulda!
back on subject?? seems what i find now is Jaguar cast some blocks/heads in different foundries, why i have no idea, but cars for UK where considered more important, than ROW!,, ?
when i pulled the engine it had a waffled block, i didnt know much about Jaguar at that time(maybr even now),
i already had a part built V12 ,USA version, but noticed at had no waffling sides!
but finished it up and put in the 78 XJS, still in it ,runs good no problems!
well when moving from Florida to Austin TEXAS , had three V12s, including UK version!\, all went to junk yard!
25 yrs ago you coudnt give them away, same with Jaguar cars,(1970s- 2000), HEY times change, shoulda woulda,coulda!
back on subject?? seems what i find now is Jaguar cast some blocks/heads in different foundries, why i have no idea, but cars for UK where considered more important, than ROW!,, ?
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Thanks for the feedback. Here is the engine compartment... the car pumps a lot of power (much more than a regular xjrs that I had driven before) and I am thinking of having it tested. The bottom side of the engine has waffling but I cannot find any #number on it. According to the previous owner, the car was ordered as it is and has not been modified except the wheel rims.
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Thanks for the feedback. Here is the engine compartment... the car pumps a lot of power (much more than a regular xjrs that I had driven before) and I am thinking of having it tested. The bottom side of the engine has waffling but I cannot find any #number on it. According to the previous owner, the car was ordered as it is and has not been modified except the wheel rims.
8th letter (S) denotes 6.0 litre.
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The VIN decodes as a standard 6.0 XJR-S, although I believe the 10th character is B, not 8.
The engine bay is interesting as all the 6.0 pre-facelift XJR-S engines I've seen have the JaguarSport plates on the inlet manifolds. This one doesn't even though it is very close to the facelift cutover point. Also the engine seems to have a cold-air intake modification, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't standard on pre-facelift XJR-Ss?
When you mention, "According to the previous owner, the car was ordered as it is and has not been modified except the wheel rims." what did that mean? Naturally, it didn't come out of the Jaguar factory with that rear 3/4 and wheelarch body modification. And is the presumption that it has been modified by Lister? If so, there should be plates in the engine bay with Chassis No. (and engine number if worked on). From a quick glance through my records, I'm struggling to find a late 1990 Lister in black that could be this car? Have you got any more info?
Cheers
Paul
The engine bay is interesting as all the 6.0 pre-facelift XJR-S engines I've seen have the JaguarSport plates on the inlet manifolds. This one doesn't even though it is very close to the facelift cutover point. Also the engine seems to have a cold-air intake modification, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't standard on pre-facelift XJR-Ss?
When you mention, "According to the previous owner, the car was ordered as it is and has not been modified except the wheel rims." what did that mean? Naturally, it didn't come out of the Jaguar factory with that rear 3/4 and wheelarch body modification. And is the presumption that it has been modified by Lister? If so, there should be plates in the engine bay with Chassis No. (and engine number if worked on). From a quick glance through my records, I'm struggling to find a late 1990 Lister in black that could be this car? Have you got any more info?
Cheers
Paul
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I understood the previous owner feedback as "the car was factory converted" but I could not get more information. No idea of which tuning provider or location. it was first registered in march 1991 in Monaco. I do not see any special tag on the car but will continue to look for more clues.
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https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2021-05-15/cars/lot-101-1986-lister-coup%C3%A9-jaguar-xj-s-chassis-001-press-car-dg/
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/sa017-lot-609-1990-lister-jaguar-xjs-7-0-litre-le-mans-coupe
Have you looked in the glove box for a plaque?
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Jagxjrs6,
That's interesting! I have a table of (what I thought was!) all the Lister-converted cars - the Body numbers, engine numbers and body description and colour
The highest engine number in my table is LP127, so hearing that yours is LP136 implies there were more cars (& engines) than I thought!
I presume the engine number is actually written LP136/70L ? The ....70L indicates it is a normally aspirated 7 litre conversion.
Are you sure there is no body id somewhere on the car, usually in the engine compartment? Based on the apparent age of the engine, it would be something like 0xxLJ where xx = a number higher than 89
Cheers
Paul
That's interesting! I have a table of (what I thought was!) all the Lister-converted cars - the Body numbers, engine numbers and body description and colour
The highest engine number in my table is LP127, so hearing that yours is LP136 implies there were more cars (& engines) than I thought!
I presume the engine number is actually written LP136/70L ? The ....70L indicates it is a normally aspirated 7 litre conversion.
Are you sure there is no body id somewhere on the car, usually in the engine compartment? Based on the apparent age of the engine, it would be something like 0xxLJ where xx = a number higher than 89
Cheers
Paul
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