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Which body is this XJRS 6.0 ?

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Old 05-28-2021, 02:50 PM
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It has a Lister logo on the back and on the steering wheel but I cannot find more info...


 
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it has the Lister body kit which is fine!
the real value will be what engine it has(of course a V12) , if 6.5L or a 7Liter!
 
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Thank you but how and where to identify the engine then ?
 
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Old 05-29-2021, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jagxjrs6
Thank you but how and where to identify the engine then ?
Lift the bonnet and look. If it has been modded by Lister it will be obviously different from a standard factory engine. Post a pic here too!
 
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That is a TWR body kit not a Lister kit. Jaguar partnered with TWR as Ford did with Shelby. There was a menu of options from badging to a 6 liter and five speed manual. In my investigations it seems most of the options chosen were cosmetic. I have yet to come across one of these cars that had anything close to the full Monty.
 
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Oh yeah. You can tell if the engine is a 6 liter by crawling under the car and checking out the side of the block. The 6 liter has waffling on the side. The 5.3 liter does not.
 
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That's not a standard XJRS, TWR or Lister body kit on that car.

The cover over the rear side window blending into the rear 1/4 panel is quite unusual. And the rear wheel arch flare isn't standard Lister either. Neither are the wheels standard Lister components.

Needs more investigation!

Paul
 
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Oh yeah. You can tell if the engine is a 6 liter by crawling under the car and checking out the side of the block. The 6 liter has waffling on the side. The 5.3 liter does not.
My 5.3 has waffling on the side! I believe the blocks were identical on both size. If Lister have done up the engine all sorts of bits will be non-factory on the top of the engine.
 
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we may never really know that engine ,untill it comes apart?
 
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Lister gave a chassis number and a new engine number to all of the converted cars (There were a few early cars converted with some mechanical upgrades for which there are no records).

I've got a list of every one of the official cars starting at chassis 001LJ. together with its engine number (which indicates the engine size) and brief description of it's body style and colour.

If that's an official Lister, give me the chassis or engine number and I'll see what info I have.

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ptsj1 thats interesting info, that gives me something about my 1978 XJS , RHD , last registered in UK around 1984/5?
when i pulled the engine it had a waffled block, i didnt know much about Jaguar at that time(maybr even now),
i already had a part built V12 ,USA version, but noticed at had no waffling sides!
but finished it up and put in the 78 XJS, still in it ,runs good no problems!
well when moving from Florida to Austin TEXAS , had three V12s, including UK version!\, all went to junk yard!
25 yrs ago you coudnt give them away, same with Jaguar cars,(1970s- 2000), HEY times change, shoulda woulda,coulda!
back on subject?? seems what i find now is Jaguar cast some blocks/heads in different foundries, why i have no idea, but cars for UK where considered more important, than ROW!,, ?
 
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Thanks for the feedback. Here is the engine compartment... the car pumps a lot of power (much more than a regular xjrs that I had driven before) and I am thinking of having it tested. The bottom side of the engine has waffling but I cannot find any #number on it. According to the previous owner, the car was ordered as it is and has not been modified except the wheel rims.
 

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Originally Posted by Jagxjrs6

Thanks for the feedback. Here is the engine compartment... the car pumps a lot of power (much more than a regular xjrs that I had driven before) and I am thinking of having it tested. The bottom side of the engine has waffling but I cannot find any #number on it. According to the previous owner, the car was ordered as it is and has not been modified except the wheel rims.
I am pretty sure 5th letter(S) denotes XJRS.
8th letter (S) denotes 6.0 litre.
 

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The VIN decodes as a standard 6.0 XJR-S, although I believe the 10th character is B, not 8.

The engine bay is interesting as all the 6.0 pre-facelift XJR-S engines I've seen have the JaguarSport plates on the inlet manifolds. This one doesn't even though it is very close to the facelift cutover point. Also the engine seems to have a cold-air intake modification, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't standard on pre-facelift XJR-Ss?

When you mention, "According to the previous owner, the car was ordered as it is and has not been modified except the wheel rims." what did that mean? Naturally, it didn't come out of the Jaguar factory with that rear 3/4 and wheelarch body modification. And is the presumption that it has been modified by Lister? If so, there should be plates in the engine bay with Chassis No. (and engine number if worked on). From a quick glance through my records, I'm struggling to find a late 1990 Lister in black that could be this car? Have you got any more info?

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Old 06-01-2021, 07:17 AM
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I understood the previous owner feedback as "the car was factory converted" but I could not get more information. No idea of which tuning provider or location. it was first registered in march 1991 in Monaco. I do not see any special tag on the car but will continue to look for more clues.
 
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Old 01-07-2022, 06:19 AM
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Hello and Happy New Year! I cleaned the engine area over the holidays and found the following number in the middle of the V, rear, but it does not seem to be a jaguar number: LP13670L Any idea ? Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by Jagxjrs6
Hello and Happy New Year! I cleaned the engine area over the holidays and found the following number in the middle of the V, rear, but it does not seem to be a jaguar number: LP13670L Any idea ? Thanks
If these adverts are anything to go by, then that is a Lister modded car as your number is a Lister engine number.

https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2021-05-15/cars/lot-101-1986-lister-coup%C3%A9-jaguar-xj-s-chassis-001-press-car-dg/

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/sa017-lot-609-1990-lister-jaguar-xjs-7-0-litre-le-mans-coupe


Have you looked in the glove box for a plaque?
 

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Thanks - there is no plaque but as cross checked with the previous owner and the car was a post factory conversion - it may explains. I plan to go for a performance test in the next few weeks - Dyno type. This will tell us how much of a monster...
 
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Jagxjrs6,

That's interesting! I have a table of (what I thought was!) all the Lister-converted cars - the Body numbers, engine numbers and body description and colour

The highest engine number in my table is LP127, so hearing that yours is LP136 implies there were more cars (& engines) than I thought!

I presume the engine number is actually written LP136/70L ? The ....70L indicates it is a normally aspirated 7 litre conversion.

Are you sure there is no body id somewhere on the car, usually in the engine compartment? Based on the apparent age of the engine, it would be something like 0xxLJ where xx = a number higher than 89

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Old 01-07-2022, 02:19 PM
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Thank you but I cannot see any other number for now: I have driven the car by my oldtimer mechanic garage this afternoon but it was starting to snow and we decided to look at it when it will be warmer here. Still, all feedback seems to confirm a 7 liter engine. More to come
 
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