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Old 10-11-2017, 01:41 PM
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OB,

Well done! I told you it would only take you 5 minutes!

If I had concerns as to my cluster and the PCB, I would do 3 things first:

- carefully remove all those corroded screws (has it been exposed to some moisture?) and replace them

- use a multimeter and check continuity from all the plug-in tabs of the PCB to their final points at each instrument / earth point

- refit the plugs and then re-check the continuity by back-probing each pin of the plugs and again its termination point at the relevant instrument or earth point

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Old 10-11-2017, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeblossom
Speedometer Stopped Working Without Warning

When my Speedo decided to suddenly stop working

I wanted to get it fixed as soon as possible and so decided to

take it out of the Car to have a look

Apparently removing this is quite an easy job but even so I thought I'd have

a practice at removing it from my Parts Car first

Although you have to be careful not to damage the Printed Circuit

It only took five minutes to take out it including the two multi plugs in the back




Hopefully I can get some advice on what needs cleaning up and how to do it


YUK, remove all those screws and replace them with new ones, while you have them out clean the PCB with a pencil eraser then IPA (alcohol). I also notice some corrosion in the plugs do the same with these. THis should fix your problem.
 
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Old 10-12-2017, 01:20 AM
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OB
If I read your post correctly, this is a spare from the parts car? If so your actual one may not be nearly so bad from the corrosion point of view. Even so, on the troublesome rea one a few extra pointers to add to PTJS and Warrjon's lists:
Along the top of the back runs a steel strip about 1/2 inch wide. This is the common earth and it goes to one of the multiplug connectors. The connections to this strip need carefully cleaning up on the real one, and attaching a second earth, going directly to the car, not via the plug, is a goof idea. Also changing the dash illumination bulbs to 5 watt push fits does wonders. These are a in those small black holders that look like rusty half sugar lumps in your pic.
To get to the speedo you have to undo about 6 small self tappers that hold the white plastic shell to the black front piece. Then the white bits with the PCB comes away, and then, undoing the tiny bolts on the PCB behind the speedo and on the plastic, allows the speedo head to be removed. Changing it for a known good one is a good plan once it is out, or send it to an instrument mender for a full check.


But have you been able to check the loom to see if the signal is definitely arriving at the cluster?
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:33 PM
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Hi Greg

You are correct, this is the old unit out of my 'Parts Car' as I wanted to have a dry run to see what was involved before I tackled the one on 'Cherry Blossom'

Which I am expecting to 'look' in 'as new condition' without any rust!

It was easy to take out and also put back in and the same with the Plugs.

Also on the 'Parts Car' the Steering Wheel was already off.

When I remove the one on 'Cherry Blossom' I will have to lower the Steering Column Column by unlatching the adjustment lever, which should give me enough room.

It could be something as simple as a clean of the Plugs and Sockets with Electric Contact Cleaner.

But now I know what that Steel Earth Strip is for, maybe I should run an Aux Wire from that Steel Strip to another Earth Point.

What do you think about that?
 
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Old 10-14-2017, 04:04 PM
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Default Steering Wheel Won't Adjust

Steering Wheel Won't Adjust

On my 1990 XJS 'Cherry Blossom'

The Steering Wheel is supposed to drop down when you release the Catch and pull it down

But the Catch has no resistance and I'm thinking that maybe a wire has broken somewhere

Any Ideas where I need to start looking or how to fix it?

 
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Old 10-15-2017, 08:20 AM
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You have to hold the lever and then pull the wheel...

If that does not work, then remove the steering column covers (screws from underneath) and have a beak around. It may just be a stretched cable...
 
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Old 10-15-2017, 06:20 PM
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Hi Daim

Cheers!

I was pulling down on the Steering Wheel at the same time that I moved the lever, except that the lever did not have any resistance.

It didn't feel like it was unlatching anything.

So I will have to take the cover off and look inside as you say.

Either the wire has come off or its broken?
 
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Old 10-16-2017, 06:47 PM
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Default Radio No Go!

Radio No Go!
Well not so much the Radio but the Aerial

Where as you can see the rubber has disintegrated

Not exactly cheap to replace at about £10 but if you've got to have it then you do

Or else Water could get in and you could end up with rust in the Boot/Trunk

I've fitted one of these before in '50 Shades' my Grey XJS

And didn't exactly find it a 'Walk in the Park'

It should be with me by Wednesday, so I will be doing a 'step by step' guide to the Refit.



The rubber round the Aerial has disintegrated, where failure to replace it could mean water getting in the Boot/Trunk





 
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:15 PM
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A piece of my rubber there broke off, but rather than bother with a full replacement, I just used some of my windscreen sealant to glue it back in place. Mind you, yours looks rather worse for wear than mine.
Frankly, I'd just like to remove the entire antenna--it's not as if I ever use it....
 
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Old 10-16-2017, 11:28 PM
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Step by step guide to replace the grommet? Heck, arieal out, grommet out, grommet in, arieal in. Done... I mean, that is probably the easiest job out there. To make the antenna slide in easier, a small smear of soapy washing up liquid onnthe inside...
 
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Old 10-17-2017, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Daim
Step by step guide to replace the grommet? Heck, arieal out, grommet out, grommet in, arieal in. Done... I mean, that is probably the easiest job out there. To make the antenna slide in easier, a small smear of soapy washing up liquid onnthe inside...
Hi Daim

When I did the last one, the rubber was so hard that it took me half a day to put it in, even when trying to lube it with washing up liquid.
 
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Old 10-17-2017, 03:13 AM
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when i did mine i soaked it in hot water for a while which softened it up somewhat. Went in ok. perhaps a dab of KY jelly, if you know what i mean.
 
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:12 AM
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Hi Leo

I even boiled it in Hot water to try and soften it up but that didn't do it either and as I remember it was a nightmare to fit.

And so I am hoping for better luck with replacing this Grommet on 'Cherry'
 
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Have you tried coating it in WD40? Just to make sure it plops...
 
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Found out why the Steering Wheel wouldn't drop down

Took the Speedo out of 'Cherry Blossom'

Aerial Grommet arrived today

Photo's of all to follow
 
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Daim
Step by step guide to replace the grommet? Heck, arieal out, grommet out, grommet in, arieal in. Done... I mean, that is probably the easiest job out there. To make the antenna slide in easier, a small smear of soapy washing up liquid onnthe inside...
Hi Daim

There have been questions on the Forum on how to remove the Aerial, so a few Pics may be useful for those who've got an Aerial to replace.
 
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Daim
Have you tried coating it in WD40? Just to make sure it plops...
I'll try anything once and twice if I like it!
 
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Some Day, Some Day
A piece of my rubber there broke off, but rather than bother with a full replacement, I just used some of my windscreen sealant to glue it back in place. Mind you, yours looks rather worse for wear than mine.
Frankly, I'd just like to remove the entire antenna--it's not as if I ever use it....
Hi Someday

Same!

While I get great reception on my 'el-cheapo' Radio, I don't need the Aerial either as all my Tracks are on MP3

But on the assumption that most of the Wiring Colours are the same, if you disconnect the 'Blue' Wire on the back of your Stereo.

Then the Aerial should stay down, when you switch it on, if that's any help?

 
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Old 10-18-2017, 12:41 PM
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Default Radiator Wrangler For Removing The Bottom Hose.

Radiator Hose Wrangler
For Removing The Bottom Hose

Removing the Radiator Bottom Hose
Everyones Favorite Job
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I had to learn the Hard Way that if you're planning to replace the Bottom Hose

Then You may as well just cut it through with a Bread Knife

As even with the Hose Clip removed the Hose just seems to glue itself to the bottom Spigot

But if you don't want to change the hose then you need something that will break the seal

And so I decided to make a Rad Hose Wrangler

The Photos are Self Explanatory

But Basically all you need is a Piece of Tube and a length of Rope

Or you could use a piece of Nylon Strop or an old Leather Belt

Put the Rope over the Hose and then thread the ends through the Tube

Then tie the ends together and put a piece of wood through the loop to use as a handle

In the Photo I'm using a plastic handle from an old Wire Brush

But any fairly strong piece of Wood would do

Using the 'Dutch Windlass' principle twist the handle to tighten the Rope round the Hose

Then gently rock the Tube from side to side till the Hose breaks free

From where it gets gummed to the Spigot and then it should pull off easy

But only put the Rope or Strop over the Rubber Hose and not over the Spigot

Or this may hold the Hose onto the Spigot even tighter so that it won't come off



Homemade Radiator Bottom Hose Wrangler











You could use a piece of Plastic Tube but I used a piece of Scaffold Tube for the Photo







 
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:51 PM
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OB,

Good form of improvisation. Well done!

I use one these oil filter straps to remove rad hoses (and a variety of other tight cylindrical items!) Readily available for about £2.50. They also work really well on oil filters as intended! Much easier than stabbing it with a screwdriver and p*****g oil all over the driveway

Paul
 
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