Converting 1993 4.0 ABS to Non ABS
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This? https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...8/#post2670489
If not that post, probably somewhere relatively close in that 3000-post long thread! Once in the thread you can click "Search This Thread" on the right above the first post, and look for a term like "ABS" or "ABS delete" etc.
If not that post, probably somewhere relatively close in that 3000-post long thread! Once in the thread you can click "Search This Thread" on the right above the first post, and look for a term like "ABS" or "ABS delete" etc.
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As jal1234 has mentioned, changing an early Teves ABS system as fitted to a 93 car, to non-ABS is a very different issue to the late system that OB has on his late 95-built car.
It's a personal choice but I wouldn't convert an early Teves system, even if you're experiencing problems. The potential system issues are pretty well understood and can be fixed.
Paul
It's a personal choice but I wouldn't convert an early Teves system, even if you're experiencing problems. The potential system issues are pretty well understood and can be fixed.
Paul
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I ran into a guy at a car show last year with a really nice, and clearly well loved and used, Cobra that I found out in chatting that he tracked and street drove quite a lot over many years.
Anyway, what caught my eye was a 3 channel Bosch ABS unit in it. This was from a fox body mustang I believe he said, but they were much the same for most of the world in that era.
Basically plug and play according to him, power, ground, a warning light, wheel speed input, few other simple things and it "just works".
If one wanted ABS and didn't want to deal with the un-normal Jag stuff, it sounds like an interesting option.
Anyway, what caught my eye was a 3 channel Bosch ABS unit in it. This was from a fox body mustang I believe he said, but they were much the same for most of the world in that era.
Basically plug and play according to him, power, ground, a warning light, wheel speed input, few other simple things and it "just works".
If one wanted ABS and didn't want to deal with the un-normal Jag stuff, it sounds like an interesting option.
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Yes, but when I bought the old boy, the Cruise and ABS were fine. . I'll bet that if I had the contacts on the ABS box cleaned everything would go back to normal. (This is just a guess).
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Hi Guys
Although I removed the ABS from my 1995 XJS
Following the Advice from Paul (ptjs) I decided to Convert it back to ABS as per OEM Spec, as I managed to find myself a New Master Cylinder, which was the only reason that I removed the ABS in the first place
And though it was a very interesting exercise Paul (ptjs) was right and I was wrong, as well as removing it could have affected the Value as well as potential issues with Insurance
One of the Biggest Problems, is if you get Air in the System of this particular Teves, you cannot Bleed the System in the Normal way, as it requires the use of a Special OBD Machine that will Spin the Motor in the ABS as you Bleed it
Doubtless there is a 'Hack' somewhere but having been there and done it
My Advice for what its worth, is don't go messing around with the ABS and so apart from Changing Brake Fluid, 'If it ain't Broke Don't Fix it' or you could end up with a very expensive problem on your hands just like I did
Alex
Although I removed the ABS from my 1995 XJS
Following the Advice from Paul (ptjs) I decided to Convert it back to ABS as per OEM Spec, as I managed to find myself a New Master Cylinder, which was the only reason that I removed the ABS in the first place
And though it was a very interesting exercise Paul (ptjs) was right and I was wrong, as well as removing it could have affected the Value as well as potential issues with Insurance
One of the Biggest Problems, is if you get Air in the System of this particular Teves, you cannot Bleed the System in the Normal way, as it requires the use of a Special OBD Machine that will Spin the Motor in the ABS as you Bleed it
Doubtless there is a 'Hack' somewhere but having been there and done it
My Advice for what its worth, is don't go messing around with the ABS and so apart from Changing Brake Fluid, 'If it ain't Broke Don't Fix it' or you could end up with a very expensive problem on your hands just like I did
Alex
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