Coolant droplets on the taillights - not good at all.
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Coolant droplets on the taillights - not good at all.
Ok, looks like I screwed up my V12 engine.
Last weekend it overheated and as I pulled over, it started steaming. The steam did not come out by the coolant filler caps, but right in front of the windshield. And the tail lights and trunk had droplets all over.
Today it barely started and will not stay running. One drive around the block proved that it is not roadworthy. I also get a rubbery smell when driving.
My prime suspect is a head gasket. Any other ideas? You don't have to tell me that I royally screwed it up, I already know that.
Looks like the perfect opportunity to start learning how to repair this engine. :-) (I learned how to rebuild old Beetle engines after burning up the lopes on a camshaft trying to go 90mph.)
What a day!
Last weekend it overheated and as I pulled over, it started steaming. The steam did not come out by the coolant filler caps, but right in front of the windshield. And the tail lights and trunk had droplets all over.
Today it barely started and will not stay running. One drive around the block proved that it is not roadworthy. I also get a rubbery smell when driving.
My prime suspect is a head gasket. Any other ideas? You don't have to tell me that I royally screwed it up, I already know that.
Looks like the perfect opportunity to start learning how to repair this engine. :-) (I learned how to rebuild old Beetle engines after burning up the lopes on a camshaft trying to go 90mph.)
What a day!
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OOPS.
Sounds like one of the "easy" heater hoses let go.
Lots of unknowns obviously, but if it got SERIOUSLY hot, then the cylinder heads may have "gone soft", which is basically a polite word for throw away.
The fact it runs at all is a partly good sign, and may not be terminal, and finding the external reasons for the running issues may be all it needs.
Good luck.
Sounds like one of the "easy" heater hoses let go.
Lots of unknowns obviously, but if it got SERIOUSLY hot, then the cylinder heads may have "gone soft", which is basically a polite word for throw away.
The fact it runs at all is a partly good sign, and may not be terminal, and finding the external reasons for the running issues may be all it needs.
Good luck.
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Ok, looks like I screwed up my V12 engine.
Last weekend it overheated and as I pulled over, it started steaming. The steam did not come out by the coolant filler caps, but right in front of the windshield. And the tail lights and trunk had droplets all over.
Today it barely started and will not stay running. One drive around the block proved that it is not roadworthy. I also get a rubbery smell when driving.
My prime suspect is a head gasket. Any other ideas? You don't have to tell me that I royally screwed it up, I already know that.
Looks like the perfect opportunity to start learning how to repair this engine. :-) (I learned how to rebuild old Beetle engines after burning up the lopes on a camshaft trying to go 90mph.)
What a day!
Last weekend it overheated and as I pulled over, it started steaming. The steam did not come out by the coolant filler caps, but right in front of the windshield. And the tail lights and trunk had droplets all over.
Today it barely started and will not stay running. One drive around the block proved that it is not roadworthy. I also get a rubbery smell when driving.
My prime suspect is a head gasket. Any other ideas? You don't have to tell me that I royally screwed it up, I already know that.
Looks like the perfect opportunity to start learning how to repair this engine. :-) (I learned how to rebuild old Beetle engines after burning up the lopes on a camshaft trying to go 90mph.)
What a day!
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When I pulled over, the temperature gauge went up from N to the middle between N and H in a very short time, whithin two miles from the gas station where I had stopped. I had shifted manually and run from 0 to 60 mph in first gear.
Today, after barely making it around the block, she seemed to run just fine two hours later when I drove her back into the garage.
Today, after barely making it around the block, she seemed to run just fine two hours later when I drove her back into the garage.
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Weeeeeell.
That Lotto got won, and it was not you, but you might JUST have dodged a bullet worth about the same.
If there are NO strange "tapping" noises, etc, then the valve seats sound like they are behaving and staying in place.
Now the reason for the steam etc is to be found, AND, if it were mine, ALL the coolant hoses would be changed with NEW clamps, both thermostats changed, heater tap checked very carefully for pressure leaks (they are cheap so a new would be smart), and then fill and bleed, and see what happens.
That Lotto got won, and it was not you, but you might JUST have dodged a bullet worth about the same.
If there are NO strange "tapping" noises, etc, then the valve seats sound like they are behaving and staying in place.
Now the reason for the steam etc is to be found, AND, if it were mine, ALL the coolant hoses would be changed with NEW clamps, both thermostats changed, heater tap checked very carefully for pressure leaks (they are cheap so a new would be smart), and then fill and bleed, and see what happens.
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Now the reason for the steam etc is to be found, AND, if it were mine, ALL the coolant hoses would be changed with NEW clamps, both thermostats changed, heater tap checked very carefully for pressure leaks (they are cheap so a new would be smart), and then fill and bleed, and see what happens.
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Good advice. Hose clamps can't be counted on as a forever thing. With age they'll sometimes refuse to hold tension.
A "FWIW" tidbit.....
I've found that the Jubilee brand clamps are very high grade and long lasting. NOT inexpensive.....about 4x the price of an ordinary clamp at your local auto parts store. But if the budget allows, worthwhile
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZuYAA...Pgc/s-l300.jpg
Cheers
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It seems that luck may have struck. What looked like a major disaster is only a "minor" one.
Hose and clamp failure and perhaps the heater valve. Lottsa coolant escaped. Enough to go under the car and be sucked up on to the tail lamps by the low pressure there.
Along with the WP and hose and clamp replacement, I'd remove the radiator and have it serviced. That would alos allow an opportunity to clean the debris behind the AC evaporator or is it condenser?
Alloy engines don't do well in heat.
Composite ones even less. Don't ask....
Carl
Hose and clamp failure and perhaps the heater valve. Lottsa coolant escaped. Enough to go under the car and be sucked up on to the tail lamps by the low pressure there.
Along with the WP and hose and clamp replacement, I'd remove the radiator and have it serviced. That would alos allow an opportunity to clean the debris behind the AC evaporator or is it condenser?
Alloy engines don't do well in heat.
Composite ones even less. Don't ask....
Carl
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My car overheated once and blew a hose on the highway. Valvetrain was loud as hell as she overheated but that was 7 years ago and I still drive it daily.
I took a look in the engine bay where the coolant was and immediately assumed it was the head gasket. It was actually one of the heater hoses. (Coolant sprayed onto edge of head).
You probably just had coolant on the brakes from the wind pulling coolant over the roof down to the rear of the car or underneath and up.
The only big worry on these cars is overheating causing dropped valve seats, but I can't say I am a member of that club and I overheated the **** out of mine. The V12 is quite a robust beast.
I took a look in the engine bay where the coolant was and immediately assumed it was the head gasket. It was actually one of the heater hoses. (Coolant sprayed onto edge of head).
You probably just had coolant on the brakes from the wind pulling coolant over the roof down to the rear of the car or underneath and up.
The only big worry on these cars is overheating causing dropped valve seats, but I can't say I am a member of that club and I overheated the **** out of mine. The V12 is quite a robust beast.
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The later V12's seem to be far more robust in this department. I have never heard of a 6.0L dropping a valve seat.
The heater hoses are a PITA to replace as is the heater tap. When I did mine I used a GM heater tap from an Aussie Commodore, been in there now nearly 10 years.
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An addition to your list from downunder.
The steel,well metal anyway, pipe that runs across the front of the engine, with the filler spout as part of it, is prone to rotting out on the underside, usually just above the water pump.
Last one I got was stainless, and about $125, but when I inspected the old one, and not too closely, the pin holes were held together by rust and a small amount of paint, so a disaster like yours was only a few kms up the road.
The steel,well metal anyway, pipe that runs across the front of the engine, with the filler spout as part of it, is prone to rotting out on the underside, usually just above the water pump.
Last one I got was stainless, and about $125, but when I inspected the old one, and not too closely, the pin holes were held together by rust and a small amount of paint, so a disaster like yours was only a few kms up the road.
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