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Blank forging to machine, believed to be spare forgings for the le mans cars. Can be machined to long stroke to make massive V12 engine! Part number EAC2757-84EXP. For quantity discount please contact us. Price each.


Crank Forging - Group C - TWR For Sale (1990) on Car And Classic UK [C100900]


Price:£200 As stated



all I want for Christmas is a stroked forged crank...
and new pistons and shorter connecting rods...


 

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Nice find! I might buy one or two.

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you may find the finished machine work will be much more cost than 200#.

they were on another site last year.
 
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Originally Posted by ronbros
you may find the finished machine work will be much more cost than 200#.

they were on another site last year.
who in the world would expect to pay 200 pounds for a stroker crank... only if it came from some rich uncle who in principle made you pay 200 pounds...

even if the machine work is $1500 to $3000

it is still ok

as a LT-5 Lotus design V8 stroker crank for the ZR-1 32 valve engine was
5 units deep. Cost $5,000 each for a 415 stroker crank...
and the price just raised to 6000 each
I have seen a desperate person Pay MUCH MORE.... back in the day....

what do you expect to pay for a finished stroker crank

tongue in cheek
"now if you head over to community college and enroll in a certificate program for machinist you could do it as your finally exam project"
tongue in cheek

I am sure there are people on here that know of competent speed shops that might be happy to work over a forged crank blank into a nice final product....
that is why I posted this...
hopefully to trickle down that information for all of us...
 

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Originally Posted by Jonathan-W
who in the world would expect to pay 200 pounds for a stroker crank... only if it came from some rich uncle who in principle made you pay 200 pounds...
even if the machine work is $1500 to $3000
it is still ok
I am sure there are people on here that know of competent speed shops that might be happy to work over a forged crank blank into a nice final product....
that is why I posted this...
hopefully to trickle down that information for all of us...
100% agree. The UK is full of places that can machine race stuff to superb tolerances and a reasonable deal could be done. Sadly I am a bit too old and poor for this sort of excitement, but I think if anyone wanted a superb long stroke big displacement motor, these would be just the ticket. And on a flathead version would make pretty decent HP.
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OOPS, yesterday was full moon, makes for unusual ideas!

it does take a lot more than a stroker crankshaft to build a large CC engine!
 
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Originally Posted by ronbros
OOPS, yesterday was full moon, makes for unusual ideas!

it does take a lot more than a stroker crankshaft to build a large CC engine!
Yeah,


I am A bit older than I wish to admit... and short of funds also....
so the "tongue in cheek" might be more of an option for me...
as the machine shop I had do my work on my sprite 1275cc... no longer is in business... sad... that thing would scream to 10000 pulled hard from 5000 to 9500 I would not do that too often on the street and it would pull in cops for three miles... trying to find the noise... yes I got a fix it ticket once for that...

one of the most shocking things for engineering school for me was that engineering was about cost/benefit ratios...
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! /$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

what I can do, I do; what I can't do I like to help enable others to do...
and try to live a little in the fact that I helped...


and though the jag is so silent, I am in the future going to make it a little less stealth


awkwardly, I work for the sheriff office now... hahahaahaaa...
 

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awkwardly, I work for the sheriff office now... hahahaahaaa...
My wife is a Deputy Sheriff in my county. That small fact has gotten me out of a few pricey tickets, and kept my insurance premiums down.

These same crank forgings have been on ebay for a few years now, offered by the same person. The listing says that they DO NOT ship to the US

Jaguar TWR Jaguar Sport V12 84mm Blank Crank Forging | eBay
 

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Originally Posted by JagZilla
My wife is a Deputy Sheriff in my county. That small fact has gotten me out of a few pricey tickets, and kept my insurance premiums down.


Jaguar TWR Jaguar Sport V12 84mm Blank Crank Forging | eBay

Lets hope the favoritism doesn't cost an innocent bystander their life someday.
 
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Lets hope the favoritism doesn't cost an innocent bystander their life someday.
WTF???
Nobody is losing their life just because I may, or, may not have gotten out of a ticket. I've paid my fair share of tickets in my life, just like everyone else.

GEEZ dude, lighten up, contain your negativity, and, stop being such a pill.
 

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Originally Posted by JagZilla
WTF???
Nobody is losing their life just because I may, or, may not have gotten out of a ticket. I've paid my fair share of tickets in my life, just like everyone else.

GEEZ dude, lighten up, contain your negativity, and, stop being such a pill.

Anybody that makes that kind of statement on a public forum for the world to see and read deserves the response you got. I know of a few incidents where individuals who habitually avoided the consequences of their driving got braver and braver and eventually cost some innocent parties their life or were left paralyzed.

My apologies to the OP for hijacking your thread and anyone else reading my comments that was offended by them, your comment however got the response it deserved.

I will not comment further.

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Originally Posted by swayne
Anybody that makes that kind of statement on a public forum for the world to see and read deserves the response you got

...your comment however got the response it deserved.
That's YOUR opinion.

Here's the universal truth about opinions:

Opinions are like a--holes...everyone has one, and, most of them stink.
Some, more than others.

Troll much?
Rather than posting positive, and constructive comments which are at least somewhat relevant to the main subject of this thread, you chose to focus your negativity & condemnation on an off-the-cuff comment...one which I made directly to the original poster, in the spirit of camaraderie.

Climb down off your high horse, lay your pet peeves aside, and try not to act like the Gestapo in here. I'm sure most of us get enough of that in the real world. We don't need it here.
 
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hey guys ,like i said full moon brings out the Lunars.
 
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I suppose they could have been parking tickets?
 
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To get things back on subject....

As I said, I've been eyeballing these forgings on ebay for a few years now, and I'd love to have one. Its a shame they won't ship any to the states.

Does anyone have a good estimate (both financial, and procedural) of what it would take to turn one of these into a functioning crankshaft?
 
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to start this guess work, cost of only one crank, has to be boxed of wrapped for shipping to USA, weight unmachined 200lbs,$250.US.
cleaned and examined then complete rough machine, reexmained and socalled finished machining, $2000.

cross drilling rods/mains, hand polishing all edges, and de burr, at this point are you going all the way for a knife edged counter weights, $1000.

balancing to match rod and pistons, around at least $1500. + straighting the shaft after heat tempering $200.

then hard finishing the journals,(nitriding), $800.

then a final Magnaflux + lube and clean, pack it up (carefully), it is now worth a lot of money,$250. and ship tp your garage, $125.

you add it up, i'm tired and supper is in the table!


lest we forget; you would now have only a crankshaft, many other things before just a short block assembly could be had!!

i'm guessin at least $30-40K for a SERIOUS jag V12 engine complete ,ready to run!

Ron
 

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Originally Posted by JagZilla
To get things back on subject....

As I said, I've been eyeballing these forgings on ebay for a few years now, and I'd love to have one. Its a shame they won't ship any to the states.

Does anyone have a good estimate (both financial, and procedural) of what it would take to turn one of these into a functioning crankshaft?
I suggest you PM XJ500 (roughly the name I think) who has all those TWR intake cores and some terrific engines. He is in the UK and he would know, and be able to give us a pretty accurate estimate I would have thought. I think Ron is a bit on the high side, as in the UK there are quite a few specialist places that might be interested in some down-time non-urgent work.
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Originally Posted by JagZilla
That's YOUR opinion.

Here's the universal truth about opinions:

Opinions are like a--holes...everyone has one, and, most of them stink.
Some, more than others.


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you are so right and apparently my opinion is not the only only one in this thread that stinks. Sounded more like bragging about skirting the law because of who we are to me than an off the cuff remark in the jest of comaraderie.
 
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Time to move on don't you think?
 
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Originally Posted by JagZilla


These same crank forgings have been on ebay for a few years now, offered by the same person. The listing says that they DO NOT ship to the US

Jaguar TWR Jaguar Sport V12 84mm Blank Crank Forging | eBay


man I should read the fine print....
 

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