Hess & Eisenhardt rear quarter window removal?
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Hess & Eisenhardt rear quarter window removal?
Has anyone removed the rear quarter windows in a Hess & Eisenhardt conversion?
Neither of my rear windows work. I've downloaded the pdf manual for this car but ran into a problem trying to remove these assemblies. It seems the cylinder for the top is in the way. Is there a way to get the assembly out without removing the top?
thanks
Neither of my rear windows work. I've downloaded the pdf manual for this car but ran into a problem trying to remove these assemblies. It seems the cylinder for the top is in the way. Is there a way to get the assembly out without removing the top?
thanks
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Paul,
Sorry I should have been more specific. When I said the windows move freely up and down, I should have added without power. When I got the car, the rear windows had wire wrapped around the brace to hold them up. When I took the wire off, they just slid down. I can grab the glass and easily pull them back up with minimum resistance.
Peter
Sorry I should have been more specific. When I said the windows move freely up and down, I should have added without power. When I got the car, the rear windows had wire wrapped around the brace to hold them up. When I took the wire off, they just slid down. I can grab the glass and easily pull them back up with minimum resistance.
Peter
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Ptmead3,
Are teh regulators connected to the motors?
If you mean that you see 12v at the motor when you press the roof switch but the regulators aren't being moved by the motor then that would seem to imply that both motors are gone. Seems unlikely, but I guess it's possible.
Can you hear anything from the motors when you're pressing the switch and seeing the voltage flow?
Paul
Are teh regulators connected to the motors?
If you mean that you see 12v at the motor when you press the roof switch but the regulators aren't being moved by the motor then that would seem to imply that both motors are gone. Seems unlikely, but I guess it's possible.
Can you hear anything from the motors when you're pressing the switch and seeing the voltage flow?
Paul
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Paul,
I was able to get back at this today. I found a broken wire in the harness to the motor. I connected both rear windows (one at a time) to the driver's side window switch (which works fine).
I can hear the motor in both directions for both rear windows. Neither of them moves however. It seems as though both regulators are not engaging the gears, or the gears are stripped.
The service manual for this conversion says the whole assembly should come out as one unit. I don't see how it can possibly come out with the top cylinder in place, or how to fix this problem without taking the unit out, Any insight would be appreciated.
Peter
I was able to get back at this today. I found a broken wire in the harness to the motor. I connected both rear windows (one at a time) to the driver's side window switch (which works fine).
I can hear the motor in both directions for both rear windows. Neither of them moves however. It seems as though both regulators are not engaging the gears, or the gears are stripped.
The service manual for this conversion says the whole assembly should come out as one unit. I don't see how it can possibly come out with the top cylinder in place, or how to fix this problem without taking the unit out, Any insight would be appreciated.
Peter
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I have an '89 factory convertible. One of the cylinders was leaking, so I removed it. It only has 3 bolts, one is a funny 17mm half round bolt, which simply took a wrench. It's not attached at the bottom, it comes right out with the lines attached top and bottom. It only took about 5 minutes to remove with the soft quarter panel off. Why not try that?
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That's what I've decided to do. There is 25 years of leafs and other stuff down there that needs to be cleaned out anyway.
In the beginning of this thread, I was just following the instructions in the manual for this conversion and was wondering how they got them out without removing the cylinders (which they do not say to remove). Maybe they assume that?
Thanks for everyones insight.
Peter
In the beginning of this thread, I was just following the instructions in the manual for this conversion and was wondering how they got them out without removing the cylinders (which they do not say to remove). Maybe they assume that?
Thanks for everyones insight.
Peter
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I recently completely parted out an '88 H&E convertible. I was able to remove the rear 1/4 windows with the top still on.
You may have to remove the rear area scuttling and side panels to fully access the frame mounting bolts. Once all the bolts are off and the wire unplugged the entire assembly lifts out easily.
You may have to remove the rear area scuttling and side panels to fully access the frame mounting bolts. Once all the bolts are off and the wire unplugged the entire assembly lifts out easily.
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