Jaguar just built an Electric 'e' type!
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OB
The problem with electric motors in cars is electricity storage (ie a battery). The contribution to this problem by the car industry from top to bottom is precisely sod all.
Once we have the ability to store electricity efficiently, densely and cheaply, and also to replenish that storage quickly; electric motored cars will be superb and useful. Until that date, we are just being fed B/S, IMO.
The problem with electric motors in cars is electricity storage (ie a battery). The contribution to this problem by the car industry from top to bottom is precisely sod all.
Once we have the ability to store electricity efficiently, densely and cheaply, and also to replenish that storage quickly; electric motored cars will be superb and useful. Until that date, we are just being fed B/S, IMO.
Perhaps still not there yet, yeah, but it can't be so much B/S when the public appears to be just fine with where the 100% electric car convenience is at this point as Tesla is totally struggling to keep up with the exploding public demand. Electric cars are truly awesome and not far into the future, they will even rule the drag strip. So far, I do not own one, but I may just go for it, should I get a home solar system in my property that has the option of including one of those solar batteries in the garage. Yeah, they're coming, they're getting close ...
It's written on the wall.
Cheers,
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Greg in France (09-18-2017)
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A later model Tesla's driving range is now over 300 miles, a range which is achievable on my XJS only if it is driven for that specific purpose, meaning at a steady conservative freeway speed, unless it is the thirsty V12 under the bonnet. And to add insult to injury, the Tesla will do this with performance class, meaning an acceleration that us, XJS owners, can only dream about.
https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forum...rs-be-prepared
No question about that!
Essentially we agree about the matter as far as the electric motor is concerned; it is just that I believe the energy storage problems and the energy delivery to homes problems, are far more intractable than general discussions of the subject ever acknowledged.
Greg
Last edited by Greg in France; 09-18-2017 at 04:51 AM.
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Greg in France (09-19-2017)
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Greg in France (09-19-2017)
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If the "only dream about" performance is used, then the Tesla range is far less than 300 miles (I get 400 by the way, but UK gallons. And this is not in a dream world. I actually got that on a return 1500 mile trip to the UK this year, including motorway, traffic jams, urban etc etc; proved top up to topup over the entire journey). Additionally, a comparison of the latest technology with a 50 year old design, is hardly fair. Modern Jaguar saloons get over 50 MPG. As far as real world tesla range is concerned see this Tesla forum for instance:
Greg
You’re still correct in regards to storage, but not for long. Tesla has recently jumped into the home solar segment by acquiring one of the largest existing home solar companies. They are making their car battery available to those who buy their home system, which results in a few special benefits. The battery will be connected to charge 24/7, meaning at any convenient time within the 24 hours, thus adjusting to power grid issues. Once charged up, this battery charge can be used to charge an electric car or supply whatever house extra power demand that may be necessary, or simply “team up” with the incoming electric company power if that much power is needed.
However, at this transitional point in time, and while the internal combustion engines still reign, the circumstances significantly vary for the general public, depending on what car(s) you own and what you need for transportation, particularly in regards to vintage (or just “older”) cars, such as my ’94 XJS, my 2002 XJR and my ’98 Z3, cars that I consider far more interesting than a modern electric car, even as beautiful and convenient as the later Tesla has become. I'd love to have a Tesla, but I'm not letting any of my cars go just for that purpose and I don't have enclosed garage for four cars. But, because the majority of car owners are not necessarily car enthusiasts, let alone interested in vintage cars, they sure look like the perfect electric car market, which is what, in the end, will make better storage technology a reality. I just wonder what nasty laws against hydrocarbon car ownership will the governments be chastising vintage car owners with once the electric cars take over, especially with the clowns at the Capitol here in CA. They'll probably tax my show car to death.
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