XJS ( X27 ) 1975 - 1996 3.6 4.0 5.3 6.0

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Old 02-08-2017, 09:24 AM
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Here are the photos from the auction - will share more as I go
 
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You're living right my friend. Gorgeous. She looks perfect. Ready to enjoy right now.

My two cents.

Depending on what you like you can get a small but noticeable bump up in performance by getting rid of the resonators and going with straight pipe into custom exhaust tips or re-use the ones from the resonators. Also, given its age, as a preventive measure either a) eliminate the Cat's if local laws allow, OR b) replace the 4 stock units with 2 after market ones. Cat's at this age begin to crumble on the inside and the car will not run with clogged Cat's. You don't want to be cruising along on some great day with your favorite gal pal and have your Cat's crap out on you. Far easier and cheaper to do it on your own terms rather than on the emergency repairman's time.

Is it a Lucas or Marelli ignition car?
 
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Hi Brad

Very unlikely to have Cats on a 1989 in the UK and the 'LADY IN RED' will almost certainly be a Marelli with ABS.
 
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I was surprised that both junk yard cars, which are both '89's, had the Lucas ignition.
Cats aren't required in the UK? That would let them certainly breathe easier.
I liked getting rid of the resonators. Yes it has a little louder engine noise but not overbearing. Just a little lower grumble letting you know something special is under the hood.
 
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Hi Brad

Very unlikely to have Cats on a 1989 in the UK and the 'LADY IN RED' will almost certainly be a Marelli with ABS.
Ha! I'll have to get my Gene Wilder wig on... I really have gone into this one blind my friends - as yet I don't have a clue if she's got ABS or Lucas/Marelli. She looks good tho and the brakes are definitely getting better with use - she only covered 1400 miles in the last 3 years.

Great news is she looks to have a mainly stainless system, with no cats tho she's blowing from near the manifold somewhere, seems to ease off as she warms up...

I used to do cars full-time then I left them alone for the past 15 or so years. I guess I'm jumping back in but I do feel a little rusty and I really appreciate this community already. And yes, Brad - let's get her breathing and sounding right!

Plan to fix the AAV and check the state of the fuel rail pipes and HT leads this weekend - ease myself in gently...
 
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Old 02-09-2017, 03:49 AM
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Hi Nostrildamus

Re: Working Title (Lady in Red) Lol

As your XJS is an 89 I very much doubt if your Car will have a Brake Servo which would have a Vacuum Boost.

She is much more likely to be fitted with the 'Teves' Brake Master Cylinder Actuator, which requires a Special Brake Bleeding Procedure unlike no other.

And also has an Electronic Brake Pump, that's the thing with the Black Pressure Ball on the Top (The Accumulator)

So if you have a Problem with the Brakes, it can get 'interesting as well as expensive'

If your Car is fitted with the 'Teves' ABS

A couple of things to bear in mind.

(1) If/When Changing the Brake Pads, DO NOT lever them back in the Calipers, without having the Bleed Nipples open, as forcing Brake Fluid the wrong way up the System, can be 'The Kiss of Death' for the Valve Block (For which there are no Spares)

(2) Do not let the Brake Pump run for more than 20 seconds MAX without a couple of Minutes Rest in between, or it could over heat and then burn out, an expensive mistake to make if you don't know.

(3) When Changing Brake Fluid DO NOT let the Reservoir run dry or you will have to Bleed the Low Pressure Side of the System, which can be more Scary than a Bungee Jump without a Cord, as this involves the removal of a Plastic Elbow which is very easy to break.

If it gets to the Stage where you have to do that, then I'll tell you more.

Perhaps you could detail what happens, when you turn the Ignition on.

Does the ABS light come on?

Do any other Warning Lights come on?

Does the ABS light go off after 20 Seconds or does it Stay on all the time?

Do any Warning lights stay on all the time?

If you have to Push the Brake Pedal really hard to Brake it could be a number of things that are causing the Problem.

As if your Car has ABS then your Car has Two Different Separate Brake Systems both working in Tandem. (Remember what I said about self harming)

So it is entirely possible, that you drove home with just the Front Brakes working but not the Rears.

Which 'Could' but not necessarily mean that your Brake Pump has Burnt out, or your Accumulator Ball (The Black Tennis Ball Thingy) needs replacing.

If your Car also Violently Snatches to the Right or Left under sudden Braking, then that could be a Valve Block Problem on the ABS Master

Cylinder Actuator (no replacements available) but I can show you how to rebuild it, if you haven't already decided to jump off a Cliff by now.

If only you'd gone out an bought a Fiat 500!

Anyway First things first.

Check for Stuck Brake Pads and Calipers, then detail what happens when you turn the ignition on and we'll go from there.



If you Car has one of these, then She is fitted with the Teves ABS Brake Master Cylinder Actuator.



The Brake Pump with Accumulator Ball

You Car is almost Certainly a Marelli, if it were a Lucas there would be a Square Black Box sitting on Top of the Inlet Manifold on 'B' Bank with a Lucas Sticker on it. 'B' Bank is the Bank on the Passenger Side of the Car.
 

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Old 02-09-2017, 03:57 AM
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Nice one mate - will report back - hopefully not from Beachy Head (popular jump spot round these parts)
 
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The Marelli changeover was about March/April 89.

Post some pics of the engine bay and someone will chime in.

Good looking car BTW, same colour as mine.
 
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Old 02-11-2017, 09:31 AM
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Video here of startup. ABS light seems to be behaving. Bit of a whine from somewhere first few seconds then disappears. Oil pressure takes a few seconds to build - stays around 70 when cold, obviously drops a bit when warm but stays between 40-70 when humming along the road... Oh, and the voltmeter stays at the top...


Will get some engine shots when it stops snowing! Thanks again gents...
 
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Old 02-11-2017, 11:13 AM
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Hi Nostrildamus

She seems to be revving very high on Start up, or are you giving her a bit of throttle?

Also sounds very noisy, maybe an exhaust leak?

Apart from that 'The Lady in Red' looks gorgeous! and the condition of the seats, seems to confirm a genuine low mileage Car.

Just a thought if its snowing as it is where I live, it may be a good idea to check the Antifreeze.
 
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Old 02-11-2017, 11:34 AM
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Hi mate, perhaps she does go a wee bit high but not alarmingly so... and yes, she is definitely blowing from near the engine somewhere, gets better as she warms up. At this stage I'd say it could be manifold but until I get right underneath it's a mystery - exhaust looks good from what I can see and I'm pretty sure it's stainless, or certainly shiny!

I'll take a swig of her coolant and see how she tastes! She hadn't been started for about a week - is it normal to take a few secs for the oild pressure to register? And should the chargemeter go to 17?

Spring's on the way. Ish.
 
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Hi Nostrildamus

The Stainless Exhaust could account for a more 'raucous' exhaust note.

But as for the Oil pressure, that can depend on how often you use the Car.

If you use her every day 5-7 Seconds, though once a week could take a little bit longer.

As for the Chargemeter, that can depend on the condition of the Battery.

The revs on Start up seem too high, at least when compared to my own Car 1,000 rpm so it would be interesting to see what others think.
 
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Originally Posted by Nostrildamus
And should the chargemeter go to 17?
No, it should sit around 13. 17 volts will boil the battery and destroy it pretty quickly.

Start the car and put a DMV on the battery, it should read 13.8-14.4 volts, if is does then the problem is in the dash.
 
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Sure, sure - battery is a brand new Bosch, would hate to kill it so soon. Will report back at the weekend boys - will add a new multimeter to the growing shopping list..
 
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Evening all, so, as suspected the Lady in Red is charging as she should with 13.9V at the battery when running so the chargemeter has lost the plot. She shoots all the way to the top when I switch the ignition on. Very excitable. Where's the best place to source another? Is taking the dash apart fun? I like it when it's fun.
 
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Hi Nostrildamus

'Lady in Red'

What a Great Name! I wish I'd thought of that (Lol)

Glad She seems to be running OK but just make sure She doesn't overheat, anything over the Normal Mark best report back, as that is the

Number One thing to keep an eye on.

As if the Engine has ever been 'Cooked' either now or in the past then it could result in a dropped valve at sometime in the future.

Anyone on here who is going to view an XJS and saw the needle going anywhere near the 'H' would call it a day and never stop running until they

got all the way home.

As for taking the instruments out, personally speaking if I knew that She was charging ok then I'd leave it alone, as if you are not very Careful

you might find your Speedo has stopped working, as happened to someone on here.

No doubt Warrjon and others will jump in to advise.
 
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No signs of cooking, unlike when I've been in the kitchen. Temp stayed at a steady quarter all the way home, oil 60-70 and she doesn't smoke. she came with full history, all dealer and specialists, 3 owners...
 
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I've feeling a little tickle and some lube on the AAV could help the high tickover and the on/off idle when she's in park...
 
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There is a couple of resistors (voltage divider) and a zener diode in the Volt meter, more than likely one of these have gone bad.
 
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