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Old 04-11-2020 | 10:56 PM
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I can't find the original post to shout out who suggested this. If whoever sees this and its you thank you!!

This thing works, Was able to get on amazon.
Amazon Amazon
90 bucks compared to the "OEM" of some I found 200-700!! BS!!

its brand new no NOS. its little bit smaller.
just put in on my the 89 and the 92 XJS. and sheesh they brakes work great.
On the 92 took apart the whole Valve body ran cleaner with a pulse generator through the ABS valve block. the break feel now its awesome. back to 100%
IT being only 90 everyone who even has a remote sense that there ball is starting to go or feel off get this.
I mean they are 25 plus years old now.

 
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Old 04-11-2020 | 11:33 PM
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My pump ball needs to be woken up with a tap to get the pump going on longer drives now, I have a used spare no idea how to test it. Similar units can be sourced from hydraulic shops but its a hassle to find one that performs the same. Great find.

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Old 04-12-2020 | 01:00 PM
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Hi smgdata

I need one of those Accumulator ***** for my 1990 XJS V12

But since its not an Accumulator specifically for an XJS

How did you know it would fit?

Did you also have a look at the ones from febi bilstein, as they look the same size as the XJS ones but again they are not specifically for an XJS so was also wondering if one of those would fit

Any ideas?
 
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Old 04-12-2020 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VancouverXJ6
My pump ball needs to be woken up with a tap to get the pump going on longer drives now, I have a used spare no idea how to test it. Similar units can be sourced from hydraulic shops but its a hassle to find one that performs the same. Great find.
The way to test is you need a spare pump unit, one from an XJ40 works well. Then rig up a piece of brake line on the discharge side, adapt to a pressure gauge good for around 1500 psi, then a valve. You need a low pressure supply/reservoir of brake fluid to the pump, and after the valve a hose to return fluid to the reservoir.

With the accumulator in question screwed to the pump, ample brake fluid in the reservoir ( at least 500ml, I used the brake reservoir off a mark 2 Jag) and the valve closed, apply power to the pump. The pressure will rise, you should be able to get at least 1000-1200 psi. Once you have reached the point, shut off the pump. Then crack open the valve and let the pressure release very slowly. The needle on the gauge will drop slowly and at some pressure will suddenly drop very quickly. At that point is the internal pressure of the accumulator.

Spec was originally 1200 psi, I have tested junkyard ones everywhere from 100-900 psi.

I have not fitted it yet ( spring project) , but I have purchased an accumulator from a P38 Range Rover, it's the same spec and threads as the XJS/XJ40. It's slightly larger, but should fit. They are quite a bit cheaper than the Jag replacement ones now. I bought mine from Island 4X4 in the UK.
 
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Old 04-12-2020 | 06:47 PM
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@orangeblossom I know that it fits, because iv used 4 of them on and 89, 91, 92 , 94. xj40 and xis's. there is zero issue.
 
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Old 04-12-2020 | 08:25 PM
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Argh! I just installed a $239 unit. This one sounds like a very nice alternative. The AC Delco replacement is a bit larger and interferes with the bonnet latching properly. I had to make some mounting adjustments to the pump and were good to go.
 
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Old 04-12-2020 | 10:05 PM
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Send it back !!
 
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Old 04-13-2020 | 12:24 AM
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Haha, its not worth it. Im up and running already.
 
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Old 04-14-2020 | 04:49 AM
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I would be interested to know if the Range Rover P38 accumulator will if the XJS as I need a new one.
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Old 04-14-2020 | 06:30 PM
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It will work, but how much bigger is it compared to the AC Delco version? If its larger, there will be contact and the bonnett wont close properly.
 
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Old 04-14-2020 | 07:09 PM
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Range Rover on the right, original Jaguar on the left. Height is identical, the RR version is 1/4" larger diameter. I have not installed it yet, but there is sufficient space around my pump to allow the bonnet to close. The label is the version I bought, as Wabco is the OEM.




 
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Old 04-14-2020 | 09:34 PM
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I bought the Amazon ball. $100cad or $450USD for the replacement. Quite a deal!
 
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Old 04-15-2020 | 01:48 AM
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Hi Jagboi

How much was the Wabco Ball and did they supply a new 'O' ring?

Please could you also let me/us know how the New Ball works out when its on your V12

Cheers!

Alex
 

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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:18 AM
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Yes they do come with an oring. I put a new one on my Range Rover P38 last year (now sold) I was hoping this will work on the XJS as the price on the Jaguar parts is a bit much.
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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:20 AM
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Old 04-15-2020 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by orangeblossom
Hi Jagboi

How much was the Wabco Ball and did they supply a new 'O' ring?
Yes, comes with the O ring. £89.99 (excl. VAT)
https://www.island-4x4.co.uk/pump-ac...84-p-1024.html
 
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Old 04-15-2020 | 10:27 AM
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just replaced mine
what was the procedure to clean the thing with cleaner?
yes mine is 28 years now... and I was looking for the rebuild kits for master, valve body, and all calipers...
but a cleaning first and full change out of fluid might be ok this year and a full rebuild after this silly quarantine

P.S. found the easiest way to remove a replace said accumulator
 

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Old 04-15-2020 | 04:49 PM
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Hi Jagboi

Many Thanks for replying that looks just what I need

Also Thanks to Robbo D

Cheers Guys!
 
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Old 04-15-2020 | 07:49 PM
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Its not height of the accumulator. Its the diameter which, adds height when placed at an angle inside the engine compartment
 
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Old 04-20-2020 | 06:52 PM
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God damn Amazon I ordered two of these somehow. If anyone in the Pacific NW needs a ball at some point I can xpress post it at cost lol.
 
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