XJS ( X27 ) 1975 - 1996 3.6 4.0 5.3 6.0

New Tyres for my 1995 XJS Celebration Convertible (Recommendations Appreciated)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 04-06-2024, 03:23 AM
orangeblossom's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 17,617
Received 3,771 Likes on 2,611 Posts
Default New Tyres for my 1995 XJS Celebration Convertible (Recommendations Appreciated)

Having decided to Sell my 1995 4.0L XJS Facelift Convertible, I would like to fit a set of Brand New Tyres

When it comes to buying Tyres, I know the 'Sky's the Limit' but the ones I might choose if I was going to keep her would be very near to the top of the range and even then may not be everyone's preference

But as I am going to sell this Car, I thought I would fit Budget Tyres, and make an allowance in the price, so the new owner could upgrade them, should they wish to do so

So what I would really appreciate is your Recommendations for Budget Tyres that would be most suitable

There are loads of Tyre deals on ebay, where I am thinking of setting my Budget to £250 for 4 Tyres (although I know that non Budget Tyres) could cost that much each and well beyond!

The Size of my Tyres is: 225 X 60 X 16
 
  #2  
Old 04-06-2024, 03:36 AM
ptjs1's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 3,986
Received 3,033 Likes on 2,015 Posts
Default

OB,

First of all, I'd fit 225/55, as were fitted to the UK Coupes, and Convertibles with Sports Suspension, rather than 225/60. Most of us moved across to this size many years ago, as there are far more tyre options available in that size.

I'm not an advocate of budget tyres, and you might want to think how much it will really enhance the selling capability of the car. Most owners will not want to fit really budget tyres on an XJS, so you may not be doing yourself any favours at all. For just a little bit more money, you can move up to the next level of quality, including Kumho, or spend a bit more and go up to Hankook, which is my tyre of choice on a couple of my cars. See the Black Circles summary here for 225/55 tyres:

Buy Cheap 225/55 R16 Tyres Online And Fitted Locally | Blackcircles.com

Good luck

Paul
 
The following 3 users liked this post by ptjs1:
Greg in France (04-06-2024), orangeblossom (04-06-2024), Peter3442 (04-06-2024)
  #3  
Old 04-06-2024, 03:50 AM
orangeblossom's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 17,617
Received 3,771 Likes on 2,611 Posts
Default

Excellent Paul! (ptjs)

I knew you would have the Answer that I was looking for!

Very interesting about the Change of Tyre Size, I would have never thought of that

Does the Speed Rating have to be up to the Maximum Speed of the Car

Or just up to the Maximum Legal Speed Limit (although I know that most tyres on the Market can go well above that)
 
  #4  
Old 04-06-2024, 04:14 AM
ptjs1's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 3,986
Received 3,033 Likes on 2,015 Posts
Default

OB,

Your speed rating will be absolutely fine on any of those tyres. Most are V, W or Y. Even a "V" rated tyre is a 149mph max. And as you say, you could argue that the UK only needs a 70mph max!

More important is the weight rating. I wouldn't go below a 95 for the 4 litre XJS.

Cheers

Paul
 
The following users liked this post:
orangeblossom (04-06-2024)
  #5  
Old 04-06-2024, 04:43 AM
leep123's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Caterham, UK
Posts: 450
Received 186 Likes on 127 Posts
Default

Hi OB,

I followed Paul's advice and went for the 225/55/16 for my 3.6 coupe and they are fine. I was swapping from 235/60/15 (replacement wheels also) so I do notice pot holes a little more but handling is much improved. I went for 99 load rating, W speed rating.

If you want to save some money and still get a good tyre, suggest you consider Kumho Ecsta HS52 which it is what I fitted. Bought mine from Camskill but they don't seem to have any at the moment but Black Circle do. Purchased mine mail order and paid £18 per wheel at a local tyre shop for fit and balance.

Cheers,
LeeP

 
The following 2 users liked this post by leep123:
Greg in France (04-06-2024), orangeblossom (04-06-2024)
  #6  
Old 04-06-2024, 06:09 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,456
Received 9,251 Likes on 5,433 Posts
Default

I have Kuhmos like Vee, really good tyre.
 
The following users liked this post:
orangeblossom (04-06-2024)
  #7  
Old 04-06-2024, 07:50 AM
bigcatrescue's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 133
Received 92 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Pirelli Cinturato 225/60/16 for my 96 celebration vert. Looks right, is right. You couldn't pay me to put 55s on there - looks wrong and why sacrifice the magic carpet ride for negligible "turn-in" feel or whatever. These Pirelli 60 series tires will stick like glue and are all the tire this chassis needs. The OEM size is almost never wrong. All cars should come with 60 series tires IMHO - we drive on public roads not race tracks. Drive your jag like a gentleman and ye shall be rewarded. Someone stuck 50 series tires on my wife's ML350 and what a sorry state of affairs that was - I swapped out for 55s and what a difference that made to the ride and as for handling it was as good if not better too.
 

Last edited by bigcatrescue; 04-06-2024 at 07:53 AM.
The following 2 users liked this post by bigcatrescue:
Greg in France (04-06-2024), orangeblossom (04-06-2024)
  #8  
Old 04-06-2024, 08:23 AM
orangeblossom's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 17,617
Received 3,771 Likes on 2,611 Posts
Default

Hi Guys

Many Thanks for those replies

Bigcatrescue

That is Interesting! I was also thinking that 55's might be a bit 'Skinny' but what do I know, so that's why I'm asking on here

I will have a look at whether or not Khumos are available and in what size Ecsta HS52 if Greg and Yourself (Leep123) are using those, then that is a really massive recommendation

Greg/Leep123 would you happen to have a Photo of the Tread Pattern and Sidewall of your Khumos

If I was going to keep the Car either Pirelli or Hankook (Paul ptjs) would be at the Top of my list
 
  #9  
Old 04-06-2024, 09:13 AM
ptjs1's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 3,986
Received 3,033 Likes on 2,015 Posts
Default

OB,

225/55 was the Jaguar OEM size in the UK for all Celebration Coupes, and also for Celebration Convertibles when spec'd with Sports Suspension. That's why they look fine, as most late XJSs had them fitted from the factory. See the pic below of my Convertible. And they still look huge compared to most modern tyres!

Pirelli don't supply 225/60 R16 in the UK at present. And they were £275 each when last available! I'm not sure that Pirelli do them in any country in the right speed rating any more.

In the 225/55 size, the Kumho Ecsta is about the cheapest you'd want to fit at £107 fitted. Then it's:

Avon £121
Yokohama £138
Hankook £143
Vriedestein £147
Bridgestone £158
Goodyear £168
Continental £171
Michelin £180
Pirelli £182

Good luck with your choice.

Paul



 
The following 2 users liked this post by ptjs1:
orangeblossom (04-06-2024), uspurs (04-07-2024)
  #10  
Old 04-06-2024, 10:09 AM
RickE's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Southwest Florida
Posts: 183
Received 77 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

I put Vredestein Hi-Trac 225/60R16 98V tires on my 1996 and have been happy with them. I paid $138.00 each from Tire Rack. They don't have many miles on them and I'm not an aggressive (performance wise) driver so I can't speak to that aspect of them. They are smooth and quiet.
 
The following users liked this post:
orangeblossom (04-06-2024)
  #11  
Old 04-06-2024, 10:18 AM
leep123's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Caterham, UK
Posts: 450
Received 186 Likes on 127 Posts
Default

High OB,

As requested pics attached.

Front one shows sidewall (you might fave to zoom in) and rear shows tread pattern. The orange dots on the car underside are anti-rust wax not rust!

Cheers,
LeeP


 
The following users liked this post:
orangeblossom (04-06-2024)
  #12  
Old 04-06-2024, 10:21 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,456
Received 9,251 Likes on 5,433 Posts
Default

Mine are exactly like Vee's. But I have 225/60s not 55s.
 
The following users liked this post:
orangeblossom (04-06-2024)
  #13  
Old 04-06-2024, 02:56 PM
orangeblossom's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 17,617
Received 3,771 Likes on 2,611 Posts
Default

Hi Paul (ptjs)

Lovely Car and Lovely Colour!

And Thanks for all that info!

So I'm going to fit Kumhos! and the Cheapest Place I've found so far is ASDA! at £97

No me neither!

You'll probably need another 'Swig' of Car Polish! after reading that! (Lol)
 

Last edited by orangeblossom; 04-06-2024 at 03:05 PM.
  #14  
Old 04-06-2024, 03:05 PM
orangeblossom's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 17,617
Received 3,771 Likes on 2,611 Posts
Default

Hi Greg/Hi Leep123

Those Kumhos look the Business! they don't even look like Budget Tyres to me and they also have a great Write Up, which is extra reassuring

And Thank you for the Photos!

As for Size I've decided to stick with 225 60 16 as that is what is on there at the moment

Cheers Guys much appreciated

Also Thanks to RickE
 
  #15  
Old 04-06-2024, 03:23 PM
WhiteGC's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Erlangen
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Hi OB, good decision with the Kumhos and the original size!

I like the tires I'm currently using. It’s a Michelin Primacy 3, a very comfortable ride and I also kept the original size 225/60 R16.
However, I’m not planning to sell my car, so I understand your optimization approach for a more affordable solution.






 
  #16  
Old 04-06-2024, 03:33 PM
orangeblossom's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 17,617
Received 3,771 Likes on 2,611 Posts
Default

Hi WhiteGC

Loving those Wheels!

Never seen anything like those before, what are they, if you don't mind sharing

Cheers (OB)
 
  #17  
Old 04-06-2024, 03:57 PM
WhiteGC's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Erlangen
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Hi OB, these are aftermarket Remotec rims.

Period correct, manufactured by a German company in the 80s.
Remotec primarily manufactured rims for Mercedes and Porsche, but they also sold one model for Jaguars (XJ, XJS) back in the 80s.
8x16 with 25mm offset, these rims fit without any modification.



 
The following 3 users liked this post by WhiteGC:
Doug (04-07-2024), Greg in France (04-07-2024), orangeblossom (04-06-2024)
  #18  
Old 04-06-2024, 06:56 PM
orangeblossom's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 17,617
Received 3,771 Likes on 2,611 Posts
Default

Hi White GC

They look like genuine 'Knock ons' Absolutely Awesome!
 
  #19  
Old 04-07-2024, 04:25 AM
WhiteGC's Avatar
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Erlangen
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Hi OB,I bought my car from a friend in the US and it came with the original “Celebration” chromium wheels.
The chrome plated wheels were quite common in the US in the 90s, but it was a little too much shine for my taste.
That’s why I started to look for an alternative solution and finally decided to go for the Remotec wheels.

Remotec was a company here in Germany providing aftermarket wheels in the 80s, 90s, similar to the BBS wheels. They were less sophisticated, but much more affordable, compared to BBS.
I think the BBS rims are a bit too sporty for a convertible. Luckily, because they would cost me three times more than the Remotec …




 
The following users liked this post:
orangeblossom (04-07-2024)
  #20  
Old 04-07-2024, 12:19 PM
orangeblossom's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 17,617
Received 3,771 Likes on 2,611 Posts
Default

Hi WhiteGC

Those Chrome Celebration Wheels just look Amazing, very rare to see anything like those in the UK

Thanks for Sharing

(OB)
 


Quick Reply: New Tyres for my 1995 XJS Celebration Convertible (Recommendations Appreciated)



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:41 PM.