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Old 10-08-2021, 03:25 PM
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I took my xjs in for a state inspection today and although it passed I was informed that I need rear lower spindle bushing. They showed me how they were able to move the tire by hand but never showed me the part. They are not even willing to do the job for me as they don't do that type of work in their shop.
My question to you is what on earth are they referring to when they say rear lower spindle bushing? I have some idea what they are talking about but I do not want to influence your opinion.
 
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Old 10-09-2021, 01:07 AM
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Either the lower wishbone inner fulcrum or the lower wishbone outer fulcrum, I would guess.
 
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Like Greg, which end of the wishbone is moving in his opinion.

The outer is Tapered Roller Bearings, with various thickness "shims" to set the preload.Similar to the earlier Inboard brake cars.

This is the rear hub unit showing the outer pivot parts.

#15 is the tapered bearing, one each end, and #16 is the spacer of various thickness to set that preload.



 
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I am shocked at how blind people can be. In any case I put my car up of jack stands, got under the car, had a friend move the tire up/down and left/right while I look at the assembly that holds the tire. I could not believe what I saw because I did not see anything wrong even though the tire clearly had excessive play in it. I looked some more and still saw nothing. Keep in mind that I was told that the play was by the tire (what is that whole assembly called?). So what else could I do? I looked elsewhere and easily saw the problem. When the tire was moved there was massive movement where a part was attached near the differential. My biggest trouble with repairing cars is that I do not know what some parts are called.

Does someone have a nice picture that I can look at around that area and possibly tell me the name of this bushing and where I can find one. Let's not laugh now, but assuming that you know the bushing that I am referring to, but is it easy to remove and replace?
 
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Old 10-12-2021, 12:24 AM
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Please post a drawing or a photo, I have no idea which you mean. Looking at this diagram, do you mean part number 5? This is the casting that is bolted to the differential and it can come loose?
https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/

If not that do a drawing of what you do mean.



 
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Originally Posted by Greg in France
Please post a drawing or a photo, I have no idea which you mean. Looking at this diagram, do you mean part number 5? This is the casting that is bolted to the differential and it can come loose?
https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/

If not that do a drawing of what you do mean.
I was going to say a picture is worth 10000000 words in cases like this. If and when you get back under the car hit us with a few snaps and pictures O what yo looking at. Not that I have answers,,, but questions,,, or may some day. I got one of these cars too
 
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:37 AM
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And,,, I cannot believe how unwilling mechanics (some) are to share right and needed information. In some cases they don't know, then don't care or THEN wanna ripe ya off. In the states, a good mechanic is getting harder and harder to find. A very messy situation.
 
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Originally Posted by JayJagJay
In the states, a good mechanic is getting harder and harder to find. A very messy situation.
I'm originally from Queens, so I know what you're getting at, but do NOT mix all the states with NYC...which is also different than the rest of the state, as I'm sure you know.

There are no shortage of good mechanics here in the Northern Virginia area, including DC and the Maryland suburbs of DC. The mechanics here just tell me there's too much work to waste on wasting anyone's time. The busier shops don't want the complicated jobs, but there are many good shops that would be happy to take on the work, you just have to find someone you want to deal with.
 
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you just have to find someone you want to deal with.
All well said,,, all well said... And I can believe that in areas a little slower than NYC one might actually be able to get to know, find thru WOM and or reputation, that one right guy or shop. Can be tough here in NYC. And it is.

Your last line speaks volumes tho...
 
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The white arrows shows the movement path of the part when the tire is moved.
 

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I don’t think you’ve said what year this car is. Does it have inboard rear brakes? That’s either the bolt that holds the half shaft to the brake disk or to the differential. Either way, it shouldn’t move. Can you tighten the nut or does the whole thing spin?
 
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Old 10-12-2021, 06:05 PM
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My signature shows that I have a 1995 Jaguar XJS.
 

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My signature shows that I have a 1995 Jaguar XJS.
I'll try to tighten the nut tomorrow.
 
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:56 AM
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I think that you did not understand what the white line with the two arrows meant. The line is not pointing to the nut in the picture. The long white line is along the side the side of the part that is moving. The arrows are just showing which direction the part moves when I tug on my tire.
For the record, I made this post 3 times now as I did not see the 1st 2 posts. If they are showing for you, then I apologize for the multiple posts.
Thank you,
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You must show us WHICH part is moving against which part.
 
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Maybe......

Diff output shaft?

https://parts.jaguarlandroverclassic.../brand/jaguar/

Many years ago, on my '88 XJS, I developed huge wheel movement. I narrowed-down the movement to the output shaft. "Something" failed in the output shaft assembly; I presumed an output shaft bearing but never investigated. I just replaced the diff.

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Originally Posted by jomo
My signature shows that I have a 1995 Jaguar XJS.
I'll try to tighten the nut tomorrow.
Sorry, I’m mostly on my phone recently and signatures don’t show there.
If you could take a short video that might be best. Get someone to move the wheel while you film, then we can all see what’s moving.
 
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You must show us WHICH part is moving against which part.
Greg, exactly what is not clear in my picture? I highlighted the part that is moving (with a white line) and I showed which direction the part is moving (by showing the direction with arrows)
 
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The part in Red is moving in the direction of the arrows when I tug on the tire. This is really the best I can do. A video will just show this part moving in the direction that the arrows shows. If you can think of how I can improve what I am trying to illustrate then please let me know.
Thank you,
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I think you have a bad U-joint on the half-shaft. I took your picture and added a green mark and a brown mark. Is the part with the green mark moving and the piece with the brown mark stationary?

 


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