XJS ( X27 ) 1975 - 1996 3.6 4.0 5.3 6.0

Rescue's Official Build Thread - 88 XJS V12 Oct 12 2019

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #541  
Old 05-28-2020, 03:07 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

Got the tranny mount back up. Filled with fluid.

I have a slow leak. Was faster when I put the tranny fluid in so I'm thinking dip stick but its half way up it? Or maybe something else. I put 5.5 litres in so maybe too much?

Best pics I could get. Its up high by what looks like a bracket. Its maybe a drop every 15 minutes now.




this pic shows the area. Psg side.

At least its not leaking from anything I did lol
 
  #542  
Old 05-28-2020, 04:16 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

Maybe this?


 
  #543  
Old 05-29-2020, 01:56 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

well i got in there with better light and rest. I wiped everything down and just layer there for about 30 minutes waiting for a drip to from. Turns out it wasnt coming from up top. Well it still could be knowing the car lol. But I pulled the vacuum regulater that I had just put in. The little o ring was ripped. Must have ripped it when I put it in and because the pan was leaking I didn't notice it. So I pulled that out, lost a pint of trans fluid and then grabbed a spare oring i had laying around and put it back together. So just waiting to see if I still have a leak from there. Fingers crossed.

I also dropped of the rear shocks to get disassemble at the shop. Once I get the srpings back I'll clean them up and then take them to the shop to reassemble with the new shocks.

While I wait for that bolt I decided that now the bottom is getting cleaner its time to move forward onto the oil pan. It leaks. Its obvious.

I've only run the engine for maybe an hour total since I got the jag so the oil is fresh in there but I will treat it like an oil flush.

Picked up 10L on sale today. I'm not changing the filter as its new as well.

Also picked up some seafoam cleaner to put in with the next batch of oil.

Once I get a couple of hrs of run time on the engine I'll do another oil change.

Once the oil pan is done all the other leaks are up top and im not planning to tear into the engine extensively until winter sets in as i want to drop the front sub frame and remove the front bumper and fenders as well. I need to get started on getting the 2 holes and other rust spots cleaned up for a safety check while the weather is nice outside.



 
The following 2 users liked this post by Rescue119:
Grant Francis (05-31-2020), Greg in France (05-30-2020)
  #544  
Old 05-29-2020, 04:27 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

Got the shocks back. Good news is that with these kyb shocks I don't need to use any of the old hardware. Which will make the mech happy as those c clips caught him off guard and said it was a pain to take apart. I was like of course it was...its a jag.

Got some scrubbing to do this weekend.

Oh and my leak is gone from the tranny!



 
The following 2 users liked this post by Rescue119:
Grant Francis (05-31-2020), Greg in France (05-30-2020)
  #545  
Old 05-30-2020, 05:43 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

got my springs clean and painted as well as dropped my oil pan with the help of my wife who placed the bolts in my cardboard holder. This is a must as not all the bolts are the same length. All 1/2 though. And no I'm not missing some just put too many holes lol.




 
The following 3 users liked this post by Rescue119:
eurolat (05-31-2020), Grant Francis (05-31-2020), Greg in France (05-31-2020)
  #546  
Old 05-31-2020, 01:59 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,536
Received 9,331 Likes on 5,475 Posts
Default

Rescue
The Great Palm has important stuff about the longer bolts. Apparently they go through into the crankcase space, not blind holes, and oil can migrate down the bolt from the open threads, and down the bolt shank and out between the bolt head and the sump flange. This will happen even if the flange gasket is sealing perfectly, unless there is a positive seal around the actual bolt/flange hole. So for starters, use a thread sealer on surgically cleaned threads of the long bolt and its threads in the block (eg Loctite thread sealer, not thread locker) and squirt copious amounts of brake cleaner up the crank case threaded holes to get them as oil free as possible.
Then ensure a dressing of RTV type sealer under the bolt heads as you insert them so any oil that does get down the shank cannot get out through the bolt hole.
Not that this is at all easy; I did all this some years ago and even so I get oil seeps now and then (although miles better than before), and I am about to have another go!
Of course, if you are going to adopt the Grant Francis RTV and no gasket plan, then that will do it too. Seee this thread:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...l-leak-232327/
 

Last edited by Greg in France; 05-31-2020 at 02:03 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Grant Francis (05-31-2020)
  #547  
Old 05-31-2020, 06:11 AM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Greg in France
Rescue
The Great Palm has important stuff about the longer bolts. Apparently they go through into the crankcase space, not blind holes, and oil can migrate down the bolt from the open threads, and down the bolt shank and out between the bolt head and the sump flange. This will happen even if the flange gasket is sealing perfectly, unless there is a positive seal around the actual bolt/flange hole. So for starters, use a thread sealer on surgically cleaned threads of the long bolt and its threads in the block (eg Loctite thread sealer, not thread locker) and squirt copious amounts of brake cleaner up the crank case threaded holes to get them as oil free as possible.
Then ensure a dressing of RTV type sealer under the bolt heads as you insert them so any oil that does get down the shank cannot get out through the bolt hole.
Not that this is at all easy; I did all this some years ago and even so I get oil seeps now and then (although miles better than before), and I am about to have another go!
Of course, if you are going to adopt the Grant Francis RTV and no gasket plan, then that will do it too. Seee this thread:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...l-leak-232327/
That makes sense because when I was taking the bolts out I noticednoticed get ones had lots of oil on the threads compared to the shorter ones.

And yes I'm a gasket RTV guy. todays rtv is much better than it was. My guide stud collection is starting lol.

Thanks
 

Last edited by Rescue119; 05-31-2020 at 06:15 AM.
  #548  
Old 05-31-2020, 11:15 AM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default


clean and painted. Looks better . Not perfect but im not going for perfect. Better than the rust on it lol. Debating on painting it aluminum color or just leave it flat black.
 
  #549  
Old 06-01-2020, 05:47 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

So decided to take the hood off. So much more room. I'm 6' 2" and I kept hitting my head on it. And since I'm not really gonna be road legal anywyas for a while i figured why not remove it and give me some more space. My wife helped me carry it down into the laundry room down stairs. Nice and safe.




Also when I removed yhe oil pan there's a little L shaped braket on one side that had a spacer for it that sits between the bracket and the pan lip. Don't know what its attached to above. Maybe hoses or something. But it's gonna make for replace the pan interesting as I have to slide it under first. Another wtf was jag thinking moment.

I circled it in this diagram but the spacer is not shown anywhere but its there.


Creating a separate post for my shock problem


 
  #550  
Old 06-01-2020, 08:06 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default


in the laundry room lol.
 
  #551  
Old 06-02-2020, 03:26 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,536
Received 9,331 Likes on 5,475 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rescue119
Also when I removed yhe oil pan there's a little L shaped braket on one side that had a spacer for it that sits between the bracket and the pan lip. Don't know what its attached to above. Maybe hoses or something. But it's gonna make for replace the pan interesting as I have to slide it under first. Another wtf was jag thinking moment.
That small bracket together with an double clip-like bit is to secure the transmission cooler hard lines as they run along the RHS of the block. The spacer is so that the bracket does not pinch the lip of the sump pan when the thing is one up tight.


Never forget, take hundreds of photos before you undo anything! I did this during my rebuild, but even so I was stumped quite often!
 
  #552  
Old 06-02-2020, 04:19 AM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Greg in France
That small bracket together with an double clip-like bit is to secure the transmission cooler hard lines as they run along the RHS of the block. The spacer is so that the bracket does not pinch the lip of the sump pan when the thing is one up tight.


Never forget, take hundreds of photos before you undo anything! I did this during my rebuild, but even so I was stumped quite often!
Ok thats what I thought as I could see the lines but its so covered in old oil and crud I couldn't see a bolt/screw head there.

I'm up to a few hundred photos now lol. I think i have more pictures of the jag than my 2 year old lol.

 

Last edited by Rescue119; 06-02-2020 at 04:22 AM.
The following 2 users liked this post by Rescue119:
Dukejag (06-02-2020), Greg in France (06-02-2020)
  #553  
Old 06-02-2020, 03:55 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

Good news...went to chrysler dealership that I bought my 2019 van from and the guy takes a shock and spring says I'll be right back, comes back 5 minutes later done lol. I said heres 3 more. 30 minutes done. Charged me 1/2 hr labour which is 60 bucks plus tax which was 78 but I had a 500 dollar gift card I got when I bought the van so didn't cost me anything.

Thanks for all the help though. Love this community.
 
The following 2 users liked this post by Rescue119:
Doug (06-02-2020), Greg in France (06-03-2020)
  #554  
Old 06-03-2020, 11:51 AM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

Got the oil pan back on. Only 1 million more places to look for leaks now lol

Here's a pic of my system I used. My wife helped me by passing me the bolts as I called them out.


 
  #555  
Old 06-04-2020, 03:47 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

My Bolt is here! Yayayayayayaya. Which is wierd because the nuts for these bolts were shipped out a week first lol.


 
  #556  
Old 06-04-2020, 07:22 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

After I remove the nut and washer on the output shaft should I not just be able to tap the shaft outwards? I've been trying but its not moving? Am i missing something. I just need it out far enough where I can angle the shaft and get the broke bolt out.



Link for what I'm doing..but just one bolt for me

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...f=12&t=1457862
 
  #557  
Old 06-04-2020, 08:09 PM
JayJagJay's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New York New York
Posts: 4,237
Received 1,296 Likes on 897 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rescue119
After I remove the nut and washer on the output shaft should I not just be able to tap the shaft outwards? I've been trying but its not moving? Am i missing something. I just need it out far enough where I can angle the shaft and get the broke bolt out.



Link for what I'm doing..but just one bolt for me

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...f=12&t=1457862
Press? I would bring it the same dude that helped with the shocks. Car to car things can be quite different. Some folks have great luck with things coming away from eachother, others have to use a 30press for the same items. I read that the outer flange to carrier can be fairly easy, to impossible to the point where the carrier is destroyed in removing the axle.

Do you have a way to press it out? Rig something up with a hydraulic jack?
 
  #558  
Old 06-04-2020, 08:13 PM
Rescue119's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 1,318
Received 597 Likes on 382 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JayJagJay
Press? I would bring it the same dude that helped with the shocks. Car to car things can be quite different. Some folks have great luck with things coming away from eachother, others have to use a 30press for the same items. I read that the outer flange to carrier can be fairly easy, to impossible to the point where the carrier is destroyed in removing the axle.

Do you have a way to press it out? Rig something up with a hydraulic jack?
Well even the ROM says to just remove it after the nut and washer is removed and another post I read said just a block of wood and a hammer hit to take it apart. I think i need a bigger hammer lol. I'm might try a gear puller as well. I don't need it all the way out just about half way so I can get the broke bolt out.
 
  #559  
Old 06-04-2020, 08:32 PM
JayJagJay's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New York New York
Posts: 4,237
Received 1,296 Likes on 897 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rescue119
Well even the ROM says to just remove it after the nut and washer is removed and another post I read said just a block of wood and a hammer hit to take it apart. I think i need a bigger hammer lol. I'm might try a gear puller as well. I don't need it all the way out just about half way so I can get the broke bolt out.

Right On...
​​​I gots to git me one ah them, ROMS... Never seen it. Which is crazy...
 
  #560  
Old 06-05-2020, 01:14 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,536
Received 9,331 Likes on 5,475 Posts
Default

Rescue
I have never had a GKN diff apart, but I think that the bearing will be a pretty good interference fit onto the shaft (to prevent any chance of the inner part of the bearing slipping round the shaft in use). The problem will be if the bearing is damaged in the process of hammering or pressing it out. So get some definite info before getting rock-ape with it. Someone here will know. There is a special tool that might be the best thing to use, and your friendly Chevvy garage may well have one, in which case 10 mins and you are done, with no damage.:
https://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Gear-YT-P22-carrrier/dp/B0078U9JPW/ref=pd_lpo_263_t_0/143-8400916-2814910?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0078U9JPW&pd_rd_r=0a7a0c97-8740-411c-a325-b475a0035903&pd_rd_w=fTHNO&pd_rd_wg=UvPeM&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=2QXH322NPR38BV521TCC&psc=1&refRID=2QXH322NPR38BV521TCC https://www.amazon.com/Yukon-Gear-YT-P22-carrrier/dp/B0078U9JPW/ref=pd_lpo_263_t_0/143-8400916-2814910?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0078U9JPW&pd_rd_r=0a7a0c97-8740-411c-a325-b475a0035903&pd_rd_w=fTHNO&pd_rd_wg=UvPeM&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=2QXH322NPR38BV521TCC&psc=1&refRID=2QXH322NPR38BV521TCC

Any diff rebuild place will certainly have one.
 


Quick Reply: Rescue's Official Build Thread - 88 XJS V12 Oct 12 2019



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:24 AM.