Stainless Steel Exhaust for the V12
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Stainless Steel Exhaust for the V12
Hey guys,
I know some of you have some stainless steel exhausts and wanted some general input...
I am ordering some stainless steel exhaust downpipes (catfree so they are available) from SNG and will be wanting a stainless system from downpipes back (btw., anyone want some original catfree downpipes? Mine are fine, apart from a small hole, and are original and have been sandblasted so are not rusty).
Bell does build exhausts, but it is 1) a PITA to get hold of someone and 2) they don't really like private customers (at least as far as I have noticed).
My wishes were not a standard XJ-S V12 setup (as you can get from SNG) but a system with NO silencers between the axles (instead a tidy looking pipe) and at the rear, instead of only 1 tailpipe each side, I would like two... To fit two standard factory tailpipes...
Does anyone have this set up? And also: can he/she recommend a place to order from? I don't want to custom bodge setup but instead a nice factory looking "tweaked" system... Diameter etc. the same, just one silencer removed and 4 instead of 2 tailpipes...
Ideas?
Cheers
Damien
I know some of you have some stainless steel exhausts and wanted some general input...
I am ordering some stainless steel exhaust downpipes (catfree so they are available) from SNG and will be wanting a stainless system from downpipes back (btw., anyone want some original catfree downpipes? Mine are fine, apart from a small hole, and are original and have been sandblasted so are not rusty).
Bell does build exhausts, but it is 1) a PITA to get hold of someone and 2) they don't really like private customers (at least as far as I have noticed).
My wishes were not a standard XJ-S V12 setup (as you can get from SNG) but a system with NO silencers between the axles (instead a tidy looking pipe) and at the rear, instead of only 1 tailpipe each side, I would like two... To fit two standard factory tailpipes...
Does anyone have this set up? And also: can he/she recommend a place to order from? I don't want to custom bodge setup but instead a nice factory looking "tweaked" system... Diameter etc. the same, just one silencer removed and 4 instead of 2 tailpipes...
Ideas?
Cheers
Damien
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Daim
SNGB sell the Bell SS exhaust system and it is superb, not noisy, and less restrictive, in my car's case when I changed it, than the OEM system.
AJ6 Engineering sell full SS versions of their own, in a number of configurations all of which are extremely good I have heard. They can be had with NO middle boxes, standard middle boxes, with small straight through middle boxes which reduce noise a bit, special downpipes, and big bore versions, as you prefer. AJ6 will explain what the performance/noise tradeoff is. AJ6 also sell just the required pipes that replace the middle boxes on an OEM system.
In real life I have only heard one car with the middle boxes removed, and it was, to my shell-like delicate ears at least, deafening!
greg
SNGB sell the Bell SS exhaust system and it is superb, not noisy, and less restrictive, in my car's case when I changed it, than the OEM system.
AJ6 Engineering sell full SS versions of their own, in a number of configurations all of which are extremely good I have heard. They can be had with NO middle boxes, standard middle boxes, with small straight through middle boxes which reduce noise a bit, special downpipes, and big bore versions, as you prefer. AJ6 will explain what the performance/noise tradeoff is. AJ6 also sell just the required pipes that replace the middle boxes on an OEM system.
In real life I have only heard one car with the middle boxes removed, and it was, to my shell-like delicate ears at least, deafening!
greg
Last edited by Greg in France; 01-18-2017 at 12:28 PM.
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Daim
SNGB sell the Bell SS exhaust system and it is superb, not noisy, and less restrictive, in my car's case when I changed it, than the OEM system.
AJ6 Engineering sell full SS versions of their own, in a number of configurations all of which are extremely good I have heard. They can be had with NO middle boxes, standard middle boxes, with small straight through middle boxes which reduce noise a bit, special downpipes, and big bore versions, as you prefer. AJ6 will explain what the performance/noise tradeoff is. AJ6 also sell just the required pipes that replace the middle boxes on an OEM system.
In real life I have only heard one car with the middle boxes removed, and it was, to my shell-like delicate ears at least, deafening!
greg
SNGB sell the Bell SS exhaust system and it is superb, not noisy, and less restrictive, in my car's case when I changed it, than the OEM system.
AJ6 Engineering sell full SS versions of their own, in a number of configurations all of which are extremely good I have heard. They can be had with NO middle boxes, standard middle boxes, with small straight through middle boxes which reduce noise a bit, special downpipes, and big bore versions, as you prefer. AJ6 will explain what the performance/noise tradeoff is. AJ6 also sell just the required pipes that replace the middle boxes on an OEM system.
In real life I have only heard one car with the middle boxes removed, and it was, to my shell-like delicate ears at least, deafening!
greg
yeah, SNG sells the Bell system, they don't hide that. I will be buying the Bell downpipes, as I want a totally durable setup. Should last as long as the rest of my old Gal will live... Until it is either hit or catches fire Haha...
I forgot about AJ6 Engineering. Time to ask them some questions. I have asked SNG if I can order an altered exhaust system (as said, Bell doesn't want to answer to me) from them...
Regarding the noise: I can't go crazy with that. Oddly, German TÜV for classic cars doesn't have many limitations regarding the exhaust. You can change a few little parts... So I can go slightly aftermarket but also a little louder.
My desire is a slightly delicate "purr" in a more louder style if you know what I mean. Some more roar when hard acceleration but not loud like these fart cans many Hondas have... Something that makes a nice sound rather than just being loud... Very hard to describe. The system I built for my XJ8 is basically what I want, but more so looking original... And that means clean welds
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Hi FWIW my v12 has extractors, no mid mufflers and has the rear mufflers and is still quiet in normal driving. under hard acceleration it sounds more like a brass band then a V8 growl. I dont think you can get a v12 to sound like an 8.
I was looking for maybe some more intake noise so I took it for a squirt without the airflters and covers - still couldnt hear it. ah well the wife likes it quiet.
I was looking for maybe some more intake noise so I took it for a squirt without the airflters and covers - still couldnt hear it. ah well the wife likes it quiet.
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Hi FWIW my v12 has extractors, no mid mufflers and has the rear mufflers and is still quiet in normal driving. under hard acceleration it sounds more like a brass band then a V8 growl. I dont think you can get a v12 to sound like an 8.
I was looking for maybe some more intake noise so I took it for a squirt without the airflters and covers - still couldnt hear it. ah well the wife likes it quiet.
I was looking for maybe some more intake noise so I took it for a squirt without the airflters and covers - still couldnt hear it. ah well the wife likes it quiet.
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Bigger intake trumpets on bigger intake tubes to the airbox, plus bigger throttle bodies (XJ40 I think will fit, Grant knows for sure) and foam high flow air filters will do the job for you!
Greg
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cat.s are after down pipes..
I was/am most likely order the XJS GT Exhaust from driven man
sound.. use head phones... computer speaker are what they are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7F9U8GHPd4
XJS GT Stainless Steel Sport Exhaust System
this is my favorite street going system...
you just have to get him to share with us what he did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RJliSCVjwI
oh, A nice place to go if you get it all back together by aug.
Jaguar Classic Team
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guess it was ok to hunker down here...