For those interested - XJS 5 Spd Manual Production figures
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The 5.3L was available with a 4 speed manual in the very early years and only 352 were made. I don't believe any were sold in the US.
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Allan
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I couldn't have told you whether my car had the rear anti-roll bar. But when you kindly replied to my questions about Sport Pack details, I thought I'd better have a look. I measured the roll bars as F 22mm and R 16mm using an adjustable wrench and ruler, so the measurements are approximate.
The grey dampers do seem odd. All six are the same grey.
Chimo,
Greg
The grey dampers do seem odd. All six are the same grey.
Chimo,
Greg
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I couldn't have told you whether my car had the rear anti-roll bar. But when you kindly replied to my questions about Sport Pack details, I thought I'd better have a look. I measured the roll bars as F 22mm and R 16mm using an adjustable wrench and ruler, so the measurements are approximate.
The grey dampers do seem odd. All six are the same grey.
The grey dampers do seem odd. All six are the same grey.
Cheers,
Allan
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Anti Roll Bar-Sportspack - Parts For XJS from (V)179737 to (V)226645 | Jaguar Classic Parts UK is 16mm. That's the only rear bar they list for facelift cars. I wouldn't be surprised if the contents of the Sportspack changed from time to time, model to model. I really don't know.
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vee makes a good point, imagine an old lady shifting gears, be more comical than practical.
some women do buy Jaguars, but probably none with manual trans.
like the type of person who buys a 12 cylinder car, they are not concerned with price of vehicle,or costs of maintenence, they do it for the knowledge that they are in an exclusive car, a step above the others(wether they are or not).
V12 are extremely smooth driving,and not really hi-performance, we all know a 6cyl. with supercharger is performance oriented, BUT some of todays 4 cyl. turbocharged are very fast also.
what im saying is nobody needs 12-8-or 6 cylinders when a good direct injected turbocharged 4 pot will run just fine on todays hiways, and get mid 30s MPG.
and seems as tho the new XF are setting the bar high in the performance area.
and i'm sure that TATA is thinking about a supercharged V12 car, for the people who can afford it!
some women do buy Jaguars, but probably none with manual trans.
like the type of person who buys a 12 cylinder car, they are not concerned with price of vehicle,or costs of maintenence, they do it for the knowledge that they are in an exclusive car, a step above the others(wether they are or not).
V12 are extremely smooth driving,and not really hi-performance, we all know a 6cyl. with supercharger is performance oriented, BUT some of todays 4 cyl. turbocharged are very fast also.
what im saying is nobody needs 12-8-or 6 cylinders when a good direct injected turbocharged 4 pot will run just fine on todays hiways, and get mid 30s MPG.
and seems as tho the new XF are setting the bar high in the performance area.
and i'm sure that TATA is thinking about a supercharged V12 car, for the people who can afford it!
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Allan
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1993...101
1994... 71
1995... 4
Those total numbers from 1999 are reasonably consistent with the more detailed break out that you received recently. I always was intrigued by the claimed 4 MY95 sales in the 1999 reply, thinking that those might be manual AJ16 cars. Over the years I have kept my eye out for one of these in the US, but never saw one advertised. From your data, it looks like these 4 may just have been 1994 hold-overs, and hence AJ6-engined.
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you know! going over this thread,
what would be a marvelous combination,engine trans, in an XJS,
6.0L with 6L80E automatic,with sport mode shift, YES a 6 speed auto matic that could be held in gears for going up or down gears.
the flat torque curve of the 12 would be wonderous to drive in a quick moving situation,in and out of traffic,passing at any speed,and top end runs without a limiter.
question; did any 6L come with 6 speeds??
what would be a marvelous combination,engine trans, in an XJS,
6.0L with 6L80E automatic,with sport mode shift, YES a 6 speed auto matic that could be held in gears for going up or down gears.
the flat torque curve of the 12 would be wonderous to drive in a quick moving situation,in and out of traffic,passing at any speed,and top end runs without a limiter.
question; did any 6L come with 6 speeds??
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No, for MY94 on cars the only transmission offered was the 4L80E. Prior to that it was a 3 speed for the 5.3 and 6.0 XJR-S
I imagine fitting of the 6L80E might be difficult mechanically (is there room?) and electronically getting it to communicate with engine management controller. I don't know of anyone who has tried but you are right it would be a good combo
Cheers,
Allan
I imagine fitting of the 6L80E might be difficult mechanically (is there room?) and electronically getting it to communicate with engine management controller. I don't know of anyone who has tried but you are right it would be a good combo
Cheers,
Allan
#32
One day, someone will invent a decent battery. Then, if I'm ever faced with an engine rebuild, I'll consider converting to electric instead.
I love Jaguar cars. I love the straight-six engines, all of them. But the electric option was a factor in my decision to purchase a manual XJS. I don't have enough money to look at cars as investments. For me, it's all about the driving experience.
I love Jaguar cars. I love the straight-six engines, all of them. But the electric option was a factor in my decision to purchase a manual XJS. I don't have enough money to look at cars as investments. For me, it's all about the driving experience.
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alleng, the 6l80E will fit where a 4L80E resides, even the same drivshaft.
and recently there is USA company that has a TCM (transmission control module) available!
they say it will interface with the ECM-ECU, of the vehicle its installed into.
GM has 6L80E available,NEW. also aftermarket trans are available,6L80E.
and i'm of the mind set, that a JAGUAR XJS should be a V12 engine just like they were originally designed for.
and electric XJS,thats to far away from reality for me, i would put a DIESEL in before electric.
i did a Corvette conversion in 1985, put a Cadillac diesel in a 1974 corvette, aftr engine blew up.
performance wasnt much ,but MPG was close to 40mpg USA fuel. used the caddy auto trans.
and recently there is USA company that has a TCM (transmission control module) available!
they say it will interface with the ECM-ECU, of the vehicle its installed into.
GM has 6L80E available,NEW. also aftermarket trans are available,6L80E.
and i'm of the mind set, that a JAGUAR XJS should be a V12 engine just like they were originally designed for.
and electric XJS,thats to far away from reality for me, i would put a DIESEL in before electric.
i did a Corvette conversion in 1985, put a Cadillac diesel in a 1974 corvette, aftr engine blew up.
performance wasnt much ,but MPG was close to 40mpg USA fuel. used the caddy auto trans.
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The 6L80E idea seems like it would improve acceleration and probably mpg for the V12 cars. I get the impression (from other threads on this forum) that trying to improve performance by modifying the V12 itself is not very cost effective. Therefore swapping the old auto trans for a better one makes sense.
In my experience, installing a diesel engine where a gasoline one used to be is done to lower running costs, and as ronbros noted, at the same time decreasing performance.
I would never try to convince anyone that converting an XJS to electric would make the car more desirable to anyone--I don't believe it would. But when I imagine some future day when my car's engine is tired and premium gas is over $2 a litre, going electric could offer a reasonable solution for keeping my Jag on the road while at the same time potentially increasing performance.
Hijack! Sorry about that, Allan.
In my experience, installing a diesel engine where a gasoline one used to be is done to lower running costs, and as ronbros noted, at the same time decreasing performance.
I would never try to convince anyone that converting an XJS to electric would make the car more desirable to anyone--I don't believe it would. But when I imagine some future day when my car's engine is tired and premium gas is over $2 a litre, going electric could offer a reasonable solution for keeping my Jag on the road while at the same time potentially increasing performance.
Hijack! Sorry about that, Allan.
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on this site is how to DIY one for something like $1700. I responded how I saved money over that.
Decades ago I did a 4 speed for a little over hundred dollars using junk series111 XKE parts.
My point is if you can do it very much on the cheap if you don’t mind doing a little scrounging.
Decades ago I did a 4 speed for a little over hundred dollars using junk series111 XKE parts.
My point is if you can do it very much on the cheap if you don’t mind doing a little scrounging.
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To add to the manual stack here. I just bought a brand new OEM pedal box casting as I will eventually convert to a 6 speed tremec. For those of you that have not seen one.
I just have to find a clutch pedal or make one. This is for a late model XJS. I have been trying to find a outfit to make a few sand casting copies. No one wants to make just a couple. They all want to make 100. Might need to find a home shop caster.
I just have to find a clutch pedal or make one. This is for a late model XJS. I have been trying to find a outfit to make a few sand casting copies. No one wants to make just a couple. They all want to make 100. Might need to find a home shop caster.
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