V12 Fuel consumption in the city too big?
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1994 Jag XJS v12
In my opinion my Jag is using too much fuel in the city.
Trips are usual European style - 35min in a traffic jam and 15 min normal driving (speeds up to 50km/h).
Average - 5-6MPG (35L/100km);
If I'm driving on the motorway faster speeds - 100km/h and more - consumption seems to be normal - 10/14l/100km
But traffic jam - 5-6MPG (35L/100km);
Any ideas if this is normal or not? Otherwise car drives really well, no petrol smell.
In my opinion my Jag is using too much fuel in the city.
Trips are usual European style - 35min in a traffic jam and 15 min normal driving (speeds up to 50km/h).
Average - 5-6MPG (35L/100km);
If I'm driving on the motorway faster speeds - 100km/h and more - consumption seems to be normal - 10/14l/100km
But traffic jam - 5-6MPG (35L/100km);
Any ideas if this is normal or not? Otherwise car drives really well, no petrol smell.
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Sounds a tad thirsty, BUT, traffic snarl with gulp the fuel, especially with the A/C running.
My HE's ran around 15l.100kms in traffic, and Adelaide does NOT have traffic of our eastern states.
11 - 12 L/100kms was the average on highway, and on C/control.
The 85 returned 11.2 for our 25000km round OZ road trip a good many years ago.
Many things can influence this above what I mentioned above.
Rtre pressures
engine oil needs refreshing. Surprising the drag oldish oil has.
Air filters too old
Spark plugs too old.
All small things, but they add up.
My HE's ran around 15l.100kms in traffic, and Adelaide does NOT have traffic of our eastern states.
11 - 12 L/100kms was the average on highway, and on C/control.
The 85 returned 11.2 for our 25000km round OZ road trip a good many years ago.
Many things can influence this above what I mentioned above.
Rtre pressures
engine oil needs refreshing. Surprising the drag oldish oil has.
Air filters too old
Spark plugs too old.
All small things, but they add up.
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Yes, car is 6L V12.
60% of the car is newly changed
Including spark plugs, injectors, full cooling system, 02 sensors and etc.
Maybe something hidden is causing ECU to think that engine needs to work harder (More rich) during traffic jam situations?
On highway - consumption is really good. But traffic jam situations - 35-40L - computer shows 999
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60% of the car is newly changed
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Maybe something hidden is causing ECU to think that engine needs to work harder (More rich) during traffic jam situations?
On highway - consumption is really good. But traffic jam situations - 35-40L - computer shows 999
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Another thought, and related to 6ltr, DUNNO
The Vac hoses to the 2 ECU units, are CRITICAL. As in integrity.
The fuel ECU has the brain wired as such that LESS Vac = more fuel. Maybe these are "leaking". Not enough to screw the engine, but your wallet for sure.
Vac test the line from the I let to the ECU, if it holds Vac, all good, if not, go looking.
Not sure on the 36CU, but the 16 has a short Vac hose INSIDE the unit to the MAP sensor, and that also could be not being friendly.
The Vac hoses to the 2 ECU units, are CRITICAL. As in integrity.
The fuel ECU has the brain wired as such that LESS Vac = more fuel. Maybe these are "leaking". Not enough to screw the engine, but your wallet for sure.
Vac test the line from the I let to the ECU, if it holds Vac, all good, if not, go looking.
Not sure on the 36CU, but the 16 has a short Vac hose INSIDE the unit to the MAP sensor, and that also could be not being friendly.
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I would assume so.
Never had a Ragtop, dont like them.
Our Lucas cars have that Vac supply under the car, in the tunnel, as a steel pipe, with hoses at each end. These hoses deteriate with age. Also, ours have a habit of oil building up in that line, fumes from the balance pipe slowly building up and restricting the opening bore, and fuel issues appear.
Alex, AKA Orangeblossom, will know, he has Ragtops.
Never had a Ragtop, dont like them.
Our Lucas cars have that Vac supply under the car, in the tunnel, as a steel pipe, with hoses at each end. These hoses deteriate with age. Also, ours have a habit of oil building up in that line, fumes from the balance pipe slowly building up and restricting the opening bore, and fuel issues appear.
Alex, AKA Orangeblossom, will know, he has Ragtops.
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Hi Yoopas
My 1995 4.0L has the Ecu on the Passenger Side (UK) Car on the side of the Door Jamb near the Floor and behind the Trim Panel where it is so well hidden that it could take you for ever to even find it
Have a look at this post as it will show you where it is: Location of ECU on my 1995 4.0L XJS
My 1995 4.0L has the Ecu on the Passenger Side (UK) Car on the side of the Door Jamb near the Floor and behind the Trim Panel where it is so well hidden that it could take you for ever to even find it
Have a look at this post as it will show you where it is: Location of ECU on my 1995 4.0L XJS
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Dear Grant,
Thank you for the information. Both Vacuum lines to fuel ecu and to transmission ECU had some leaks, thus consumption was waay out range. Interestingly engine run perfect. Additionally i have changed both Intake Air Temperature sensors.
Now average city driving consumption is around 27L/100 KM (Around 11-12MPG) - i assume its absolutely normal for 6L V12.
Once again thank you and case closed.
Thank you for the information. Both Vacuum lines to fuel ecu and to transmission ECU had some leaks, thus consumption was waay out range. Interestingly engine run perfect. Additionally i have changed both Intake Air Temperature sensors.
Now average city driving consumption is around 27L/100 KM (Around 11-12MPG) - i assume its absolutely normal for 6L V12.
Once again thank you and case closed.
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