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Old 04-02-2014, 11:17 PM
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I do not care for the look of the front of the Monaco either. I figure if you are going to go to the trouble of looking like you mean business then you do not want to confuse the Porsche owners as you are getting ready to overtake them on the open highway-LOL!!

There is something about the lines of the XJS front fenders wrapping over the headlamp area into the hood that just seems to work for the car. The XJS to me has a very distinctive look which makes it stand out and like a bottle of fine wine gets better as time marches forward. There is something to be said about enhancing the looks of a great car without making it look gaudy or silly at the same time.
 
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Originally Posted by LuvmyXJS'
There is something to be said about enhancing the looks of a great car without making it look gaudy or silly at the same time.
Exactly.
As I said, I want my finished car to look as though it came off a special assembly line at Brown's Lane in the mid 80s, rather than out the back of a brown parcel van 10 minutes ago.

Someone mentioned using fiberglass for the hood and deck lids. That is a perfectly acceptable material, which is lighter & easier to work with than steel, and was widely used on both street, and track in the 80s. However, I don't think Jaguar would have ever used it for major body panels on a road car, so, neither will I. All my panels will be either steel, or aluminum (aluminium, for my friends across the pond).
 
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:29 AM
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My apologies, definitely +1 on aluminum skin and any other parts (did not know if it would fit in the budget). Any tricks borrowed from the factory lightweight Jags or SEFAC cars of the same era to keep it looking stock but drop weight gets my vote!
 
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Old 04-03-2014, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by POSracing
My apologies, definitely +1 on aluminum skin and any other parts (did not know if it would fit in the budget). Any tricks borrowed from the factory lightweight Jags or SEFAC cars of the same era to keep it looking stock but drop weight gets my vote!
No need to apologize. I want to know how others would build an XJS if they were trying to produce a mid 80s phantom sub-model of the XJS that meets the criteria of my original post, as well as what they would like to do to their own car in order to make it more of what they want it to be--their personal vision for the XJS they own.
 

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I followed the path of reasonable sufficiency
 
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Old 05-16-2014, 04:12 PM
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This is my answer JagZilla. It is Jagor Lemon.
 
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As far as wider wheels go, there is a member running 275s.
TWR modified the INSIDE of the rear wheel wells to gain room.
The result, same xjs lines, more tire! Looked AWSOME! Definetly looked special"!
Just a thought. ;-)
 
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im wondering why your op lacks any mention of fender flares? it cannot be a special factory edition without wide body flares.
 
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by M90power
im wondering why your op lacks any mention of fender flares? it cannot be a special factory edition without wide body flares.
Actually, I DID cover flared fenders in my 2nd to the last paragraph of my original post. However, I'm, now considering the possibility of molding all new fiberglass fenders, rather than trying to make wide body steel fenders.

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What I'm not so certain about, is how to best cover those wider wheels sticking out beyond the stock sheet metal. The shape of the wheel openings, especially the rears, which overlap the top of the tires, make for awkward looking flairs (see photos of the Group 44 XJS for confirmation of this). I could change the shape of the wheel openings to be round, but, I think doing so may be too much of a visual departure from stock. My other idea is to widen the entire body panel, creating a coke bottle shape when the car is viewed from above. I will only widen the car by 2-3 inches per side, and I think this will also create a muscular looking "hip" above the rear wheel. Where the original body juts out horizontally about 1/4 inch just below the vent panel, I would create an arc, which protrudes about 1-1/2 inches at its widest point. Whether flairs, or complete fenders, all work would be done in 18 gauge steel.
 
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Old 05-17-2014, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 1800doogie
As far as wider wheels go, there is a member running 275s.
TWR modified the INSIDE of the rear wheel wells to gain room.
The result, same xjs lines, more tire! Looked AWSOME! Definetly looked special"!
Just a thought. ;-)
I have 275s but I'm curious as to how twr modified the inside of the wheel well
 
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Originally Posted by xjsv12
I followed the path of reasonable sufficiency
That's a good looking car, xjsv12.
 
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:57 AM
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TWR ran a 11 1/2 rear wheel. They cut 2 inches out on the inner wheel well, then welded it back up. Finished result looked factory.
 
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My wide body steel fenders is only 1 inch. Big wheels for XKR brembo brakes. There is more modified front suspension. Aston Martin parts installed.
Sorry for my English.
 
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Originally Posted by xjsv12
My wide body steel fenders is only 1 inch. Big wheels for XKR brembo brakes. There is more modified front suspension. Aston Martin parts installed.
Sorry for my English.
Your English is fine
The fenders are done really well, and they create a subtle difference between your car and a stock XJS. Thank you for sharing those photos. I'd love to see more photos, and read more details about all your modifications.
Did you stretch and expand the original fenders, or did you make those new fenders from scratch?
What size are your tires and wheels?
 
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Old 05-20-2014, 03:04 PM
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Front suspension
 
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Old 05-20-2014, 03:07 PM
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For better brakes
 
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Old 05-20-2014, 03:27 PM
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Warning! DB7's suspension is wider more 1inch
Very difficult to find wheels
 
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How much different is the db7 suspension than the xjs suspension?
 
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