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Old 01-09-2017, 10:06 AM
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Hey guys,

I've been doing my front oil seal and am stuck...

The pulley is off as if the little cone. The old seal is also out... BUT...

The woodruff key in the crankshaft won't budge. It has even chipped a corner and won't budge one bit. I've tried whacking it with a hammer and punch (even removed the water pump for it). I've tried a chisel as well. I've even tried fire...

I need to remove it to get the sleeve off to replace it (the sealing surface is nastily pitted).

Any tips to remove this little bugger?

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Damien
 
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:27 AM
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Never did it on these engines. On others at times.


Look in a parts catalog to see if it is a straight pin that mates two grooves.


Or a semi circular shape with the curve in the crank snout and the straight edge in the pulley.


If the latter, tap one end. that will create a rocking motion to roll the key out of it's groove.


If the former, no inspirations at the moment. Ice and or heat comes to mind!


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Old 01-09-2017, 10:29 AM
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Circular... I ordered two new ones due to this kind of expectation...
 
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Circular... I ordered two new ones due to this kind of expectation...
if you wish to advance your ignition timing....
MR GASKET 988G ENGINE CRANKSHAFT WOODRUFF KEY...
4 degrees advance...
 
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:55 AM
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No no... Ignition will stay as is

But I finally got it out. I was just being to gentle... My Dad is the expert in old British bangers and used a chisel and whacked the sides a few times and then using a FBH and a chisel moved it out...
 
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Old 01-09-2017, 12:59 PM
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Jonathan:


I don't think so. The off set keys are used on the crank gear to change it's relation to the driven cam gear. It changes valve timing.


Changing the dampener's relation to the crank could change timing, if the dampener was used as a signal generator.


As far as I know, this engine uses a more or less conventional distributor.


Apologies for the sermon. I'm amongst the last guys that oughta do that...






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Originally Posted by JagCad
Jonathan:


I don't think so. The off set keys are used on the crank gear to change it's relation to the driven cam gear. It changes valve timing.


Changing the dampener's relation to the crank could change timing, if the dampener was used as a signal generator.



As far as I know, this engine uses a more or less conventional distributor.


Apologies for the sermon. I'm amongst the last guys that oughta do that...






Carl
will on a Marelli ignition car Carl since the timing trigger is in fact on the damper hub.
On a locking cone type damper it should even be possible to advance it 8 degrees by replacing both keys (if that's what floats your boat)
 
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:42 AM
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sorry I thought you had a later crank sensor engine..
when I look at your newer post I see that it is not one with the sensor up front on the balancer...
 
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I have the marelli ignition... The sensor just isn't in place at the moment
 
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Back to square one. The car has a sensor related to dampener location.


But, as I posted, I did qualify my comment.


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