Would you sell your XJS to buy an 'e' type?
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Would you sell your XJS to buy an 'e' type?
Probably not this one! £1.2 Million Pounds!
For those who missed the Programme: 'Building The Million Pound Car'
Jaguar Lightweight E-Type review - the £1.2million unicorn | Evo
But there did seem to be a hint of expectation, that at sometime in the future, Jaguar might hopefully produce the kind of 'e' type that we all know and love.
And what an Amazing idea that would be! as this is the 'Classic Sports Car' revered all over the World and 'The Greatest Crumpet Catcher' know to man.
With the Price of Secondhand 'e' types Circa £150,000 for a good one in the UK, it probably won't be quite in that price bracket.
But if push ever came to shove, would you sell your XJS to buy one?
Somehow I don't think I would as I want what I've got but never say never.
For those who missed the Programme: 'Building The Million Pound Car'
Jaguar Lightweight E-Type review - the £1.2million unicorn | Evo
But there did seem to be a hint of expectation, that at sometime in the future, Jaguar might hopefully produce the kind of 'e' type that we all know and love.
And what an Amazing idea that would be! as this is the 'Classic Sports Car' revered all over the World and 'The Greatest Crumpet Catcher' know to man.
With the Price of Secondhand 'e' types Circa £150,000 for a good one in the UK, it probably won't be quite in that price bracket.
But if push ever came to shove, would you sell your XJS to buy one?
Somehow I don't think I would as I want what I've got but never say never.
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If your proposition means that I could own only *one* Jaguar, and it had to be an E-type, and I'd have to give up an XJS.....then the answer would be "No"
The XJS is ten times more automobile than the E-Type. The E-type is great at being an automotive icon. The XJS is great at just about everything else
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DD
The XJS is ten times more automobile than the E-Type. The E-type is great at being an automotive icon. The XJS is great at just about everything else
Cheers
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Although I've never owned an 'e' type, I have driven one and there are certain boxes that the 'e' type doesn't tick, at least for me.
I just love the Contemporary Styling and the Creature Comforts of the XJS.
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If your proposition means that I could own only *one* Jaguar, and it had to be an E-type, and I'd have to give up an XJS.....then the answer would be "No"
The XJS is ten times more automobile than the E-Type. The E-type is great at being an automotive icon. The XJS is great at just about everything else
Cheers
DD
The XJS is ten times more automobile than the E-Type. The E-type is great at being an automotive icon. The XJS is great at just about everything else
Cheers
DD
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So nice to have all these knowledgeable people share my own view! The E Type is an icon, but as a car it nowhere approaches the XJS. Slower, noisier, less comfortable, cornering and handling nowhere near as good. And as a head turner it is not cutting it with the young. Read on:
The status of the E type in our minds just means we are showing our age, for today's under 30s the XJS REALLY turns heads. One week ago today, in Covent Garden, Central London, as I cruised about the busy narrow streets filled with young people, looking for a parking space, the XJS received many admiring glances and not a few devastating smiles were bestowed upon its aging owner.
Stick with it boys, the age of the XJS has already started.
Greg
The status of the E type in our minds just means we are showing our age, for today's under 30s the XJS REALLY turns heads. One week ago today, in Covent Garden, Central London, as I cruised about the busy narrow streets filled with young people, looking for a parking space, the XJS received many admiring glances and not a few devastating smiles were bestowed upon its aging owner.
Stick with it boys, the age of the XJS has already started.
Greg
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Now, to be certain, if given the means and opportunity to own a *variety* of cool cars, or a variety of Jaguars, the E-Type would *absolutely* be one of them.
Like a lot of really cool old cars, though, reality doesn't quite live up to the hype. I've driven E-types..... and proven to myself that I've grown accustomed to modern-ish automobiles
Cheers
DD
Like a lot of really cool old cars, though, reality doesn't quite live up to the hype. I've driven E-types..... and proven to myself that I've grown accustomed to modern-ish automobiles
Cheers
DD
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So nice to have all these knowledgeable people share my own view! The E Type is an icon, but as a car it nowhere approaches the XJS. Slower, noisier, less comfortable, cornering and handling nowhere near as good. And as a head turner it is not cutting it with the young. Read on:
The status of the E type in our minds just means we are showing our age, for today's under 30s the XJS REALLY turns heads. One week ago today, in Covent Garden, Central London, as I cruised about the busy narrow streets filled with young people, looking for a parking space, the XJS received many admiring glances and not a few devastating smiles were bestowed upon its aging owner.
Stick with it boys, the age of the XJS has already started.
Greg
The status of the E type in our minds just means we are showing our age, for today's under 30s the XJS REALLY turns heads. One week ago today, in Covent Garden, Central London, as I cruised about the busy narrow streets filled with young people, looking for a parking space, the XJS received many admiring glances and not a few devastating smiles were bestowed upon its aging owner.
Stick with it boys, the age of the XJS has already started.
Greg
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Now, to be certain, if given the means and opportunity to own a *variety* of cool cars, or a variety of Jaguars, the E-Type would *absolutely* be one of them.
Like a lot of really cool old cars, though, reality doesn't quite live up to the hype. I've driven E-types..... and proven to myself that I've grown accustomed to modern-ish automobiles
Cheers
DD
Like a lot of really cool old cars, though, reality doesn't quite live up to the hype. I've driven E-types..... and proven to myself that I've grown accustomed to modern-ish automobiles
Cheers
DD
I wonder which one would have outsold the other.
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OB,
It seems like I'm in the minority but I'd swap my XJS for an E-Type in the blink of an eye. And I want the "least-loved" one the most - Series 3 V12
I've had my XJS convertible for 12 years and love her, but a Series 3 roadster is a thing of absolute beauty (as indeed is a Coupe IMO). With the V12 engine, it performs great. Is it a better handling car than my uprated 4 litre? No, but then a modern small Peugeot can probably run rings around my XJS anyway. Is it better-equipped than my XJS? No, but when you look out of the window, you can't see the wood dash and trip computer of the XJS, but you could see the beautiful feline shape of the E-Type!
I think that cars are "of their time". The E-Type is the 1960s personified and with the late V12 engine, is the ultimate variant. Why do they go for up to £200,000 over here. Because nearly everyone still wants the best-looking car ever made, despite all its quality & handling shortcomings.
So, I might be in the minority here, but if someone wants to give £150,000 for my XJS, I'll be straight down the road to get my E-Type!
Paul
It seems like I'm in the minority but I'd swap my XJS for an E-Type in the blink of an eye. And I want the "least-loved" one the most - Series 3 V12
I've had my XJS convertible for 12 years and love her, but a Series 3 roadster is a thing of absolute beauty (as indeed is a Coupe IMO). With the V12 engine, it performs great. Is it a better handling car than my uprated 4 litre? No, but then a modern small Peugeot can probably run rings around my XJS anyway. Is it better-equipped than my XJS? No, but when you look out of the window, you can't see the wood dash and trip computer of the XJS, but you could see the beautiful feline shape of the E-Type!
I think that cars are "of their time". The E-Type is the 1960s personified and with the late V12 engine, is the ultimate variant. Why do they go for up to £200,000 over here. Because nearly everyone still wants the best-looking car ever made, despite all its quality & handling shortcomings.
So, I might be in the minority here, but if someone wants to give £150,000 for my XJS, I'll be straight down the road to get my E-Type!
Paul
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From the land of imagination.
1. Far more XJS's on the market than E types.
2. All E types are not equal.
3. Under the skin, the XJs is a far more advanced automobile.
4. E type roadsters, oh, yeah.
5. The bulbous hard tops, Nope. Odd looking at best. short Ok, long, ugly!!
Just my ideas. As of now, I've my hands full with a mundane XJwuzza six.
Carl
1. Far more XJS's on the market than E types.
2. All E types are not equal.
3. Under the skin, the XJs is a far more advanced automobile.
4. E type roadsters, oh, yeah.
5. The bulbous hard tops, Nope. Odd looking at best. short Ok, long, ugly!!
Just my ideas. As of now, I've my hands full with a mundane XJwuzza six.
Carl
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OB,
It seems like I'm in the minority but I'd swap my XJS for an E-Type in the blink of an eye. And I want the "least-loved" one the most - Series 3 V12
I've had my XJS convertible for 12 years and love her, but a Series 3 roadster is a thing of absolute beauty (as indeed is a Coupe IMO). With the V12 engine, it performs great. Is it a better handling car than my uprated 4 litre? No, but then a modern small Peugeot can probably run rings around my XJS anyway. Is it better-equipped than my XJS? No, but when you look out of the window, you can't see the wood dash and trip computer of the XJS, but you could see the beautiful feline shape of the E-Type!
I think that cars are "of their time". The E-Type is the 1960s personified and with the late V12 engine, is the ultimate variant. Why do they go for up to £200,000 over here. Because nearly everyone still wants the best-looking car ever made, despite all its quality & handling shortcomings.
So, I might be in the minority here, but if someone wants to give £150,000 for my XJS, I'll be straight down the road to get my E-Type!
Paul
It seems like I'm in the minority but I'd swap my XJS for an E-Type in the blink of an eye. And I want the "least-loved" one the most - Series 3 V12
I've had my XJS convertible for 12 years and love her, but a Series 3 roadster is a thing of absolute beauty (as indeed is a Coupe IMO). With the V12 engine, it performs great. Is it a better handling car than my uprated 4 litre? No, but then a modern small Peugeot can probably run rings around my XJS anyway. Is it better-equipped than my XJS? No, but when you look out of the window, you can't see the wood dash and trip computer of the XJS, but you could see the beautiful feline shape of the E-Type!
I think that cars are "of their time". The E-Type is the 1960s personified and with the late V12 engine, is the ultimate variant. Why do they go for up to £200,000 over here. Because nearly everyone still wants the best-looking car ever made, despite all its quality & handling shortcomings.
So, I might be in the minority here, but if someone wants to give £150,000 for my XJS, I'll be straight down the road to get my E-Type!
Paul
I personally think an early S3 is a better car in the fun factor side than any vintage XJS (if we're talking V12 to V12 here, aside from very early manual cars), however, an XJS is much easier to live with long term, and convertibles have gained such presence as they have aged.
A Fall blast in the hills in a 3.8 OTS whilst bouncing off red line all afternoon = ain't nothing better IME. S1 cars (including 4.2's) still just do it for me everytime, I never get bored or let down.
30 some years ago, a former Jaguar sales associate told it best (he was from the UK transplanted here - am paraphrasing as it's been a while). "The XJS was for the man that drove an E-Type and decided he needed a more comfortable wardrobe, however, one should never be without a tuxedo". Gotta have 'em both in other words..
Cheers,
Jeff
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Gee...this is a difficult choice.
I guess for me it would come down to usage.
If I was wanting a car to drive on a regular basis then I would chose the XJS. If I just wanted something to take out on nice weekends and car shows then I would have the "E" type. But it would have to be the convertible. I was never attracted to the coupes.
On the other hand, for the cost of an "E" type I could have a fully restored XJS and 3 or 4 other for spares.
Fortunately my economic status has made the decision for me.
It is XJS for me!!
Mark
I guess for me it would come down to usage.
If I was wanting a car to drive on a regular basis then I would chose the XJS. If I just wanted something to take out on nice weekends and car shows then I would have the "E" type. But it would have to be the convertible. I was never attracted to the coupes.
On the other hand, for the cost of an "E" type I could have a fully restored XJS and 3 or 4 other for spares.
Fortunately my economic status has made the decision for me.
It is XJS for me!!
Mark
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If I got an E given to me, I'd flog it and get the best of the best XJ-S (not XJS) out there!
And buy some nice goodies with the rest
I am no E fan... A purely overrated and overhyped car. If you get the chance to drive one, it isn't as fun as it seems. I got to sit as a passemger in a Series II E and was driven a little. It wallowed back amd forth and felt everything else than 'legendary' - and that one had been freshly restored. Nothing beats the double wishbone setup at the front of an XJ/XJ-S... The torsionbar setup is just old and dated. Not so sophisticated...
As said, I wouldn't want an E type...
And buy some nice goodies with the rest
I am no E fan... A purely overrated and overhyped car. If you get the chance to drive one, it isn't as fun as it seems. I got to sit as a passemger in a Series II E and was driven a little. It wallowed back amd forth and felt everything else than 'legendary' - and that one had been freshly restored. Nothing beats the double wishbone setup at the front of an XJ/XJ-S... The torsionbar setup is just old and dated. Not so sophisticated...
As said, I wouldn't want an E type...
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Well strange enough I actually had a opportunity to trade one of my '95 convertibles for a very nice series 3 E-type coupe.
From a financial stand point it made perfect sense why I would consider it but when it came down to it I just could not part with something I was passionate about for something that I was not. Now had it been a convertible series 3 E-type I would have worked hard to make that happen but not for the series 3 coupe.
I have always wanted an older E- type roadster and why not: they are one of the most beautiful cars ever made, are still a blast to drive and lets be honest they just eek sexy from every angle.
Then reality sits in and for us working class folk the window of opportunity to purchase a reasonably priced E -type roadster is not going to happen or as the saying goes that ship already sailed out to sea.
I know for myself there are many different cars I would love to have out in my garage to take out for weekend drives and car shows etc. but I have to look at what amount of capitol I would be tying up to have those at my leisure. I do not have the financial means nor am I willing to do that so I will leave that to the ultra wealthy.
What I love about the XJS is that most are still accessible cost wise to many of us with limited means. The fact that they are hardly ever seen out being driven, were the last Lyons-Sayer inspired Jaguar sports car and are damn sexy to boot-well that just makes me feel like the guy in the '70s who bought a well taken care of E-type roadster for $ 1500.00 -like I just won the lottery.
From a financial stand point it made perfect sense why I would consider it but when it came down to it I just could not part with something I was passionate about for something that I was not. Now had it been a convertible series 3 E-type I would have worked hard to make that happen but not for the series 3 coupe.
I have always wanted an older E- type roadster and why not: they are one of the most beautiful cars ever made, are still a blast to drive and lets be honest they just eek sexy from every angle.
Then reality sits in and for us working class folk the window of opportunity to purchase a reasonably priced E -type roadster is not going to happen or as the saying goes that ship already sailed out to sea.
I know for myself there are many different cars I would love to have out in my garage to take out for weekend drives and car shows etc. but I have to look at what amount of capitol I would be tying up to have those at my leisure. I do not have the financial means nor am I willing to do that so I will leave that to the ultra wealthy.
What I love about the XJS is that most are still accessible cost wise to many of us with limited means. The fact that they are hardly ever seen out being driven, were the last Lyons-Sayer inspired Jaguar sports car and are damn sexy to boot-well that just makes me feel like the guy in the '70s who bought a well taken care of E-type roadster for $ 1500.00 -like I just won the lottery.
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My primary objection to E-types is that lack of comfort. Of course, none of us are the same shape....but I simply have a hard time getting comfortable. I really feel like I have to squeeze into the car and I usually drive with my shoes off 'cuz my feet invariably get all tangled in the pedals ....which are bunched right together for awkwardness . There's no shoulder room or headroom....and no ventilation system, either.
But, sports cars of long ago were just that way. Look at the old first gen, solid-axle Corvettes---very awkward driving position. They're another car where it's great to be seen in but driving one....well....not really all that great. There's the initial thrill of driving something really cool but, after that wears off.......well....
The fun of the E-Type comes from that brilliant off-the-line acceleration, magnificent sound, and crisp steering. When you're hard into the throttle and watching the bulged bonnet rise up in front of you....and hearing that sound.....oh my !
It speaks volumes that, today, you can jump into an XJS...itself a 30 year old design....and still be impressed.
Cheers
DD
But, sports cars of long ago were just that way. Look at the old first gen, solid-axle Corvettes---very awkward driving position. They're another car where it's great to be seen in but driving one....well....not really all that great. There's the initial thrill of driving something really cool but, after that wears off.......well....
The fun of the E-Type comes from that brilliant off-the-line acceleration, magnificent sound, and crisp steering. When you're hard into the throttle and watching the bulged bonnet rise up in front of you....and hearing that sound.....oh my !
It speaks volumes that, today, you can jump into an XJS...itself a 30 year old design....and still be impressed.
Cheers
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OB,
It seems like I'm in the minority but I'd swap my XJS for an E-Type in the blink of an eye. And I want the "least-loved" one the most - Series 3 V12
I've had my XJS convertible for 12 years and love her, but a Series 3 roadster is a thing of absolute beauty (as indeed is a Coupe IMO). With the V12 engine, it performs great. Is it a better handling car than my uprated 4 litre? No, but then a modern small Peugeot can probably run rings around my XJS anyway. Is it better-equipped than my XJS? No, but when you look out of the window, you can't see the wood dash and trip computer of the XJS, but you could see the beautiful feline shape of the E-Type!
I think that cars are "of their time". The E-Type is the 1960s personified and with the late V12 engine, is the ultimate variant. Why do they go for up to £200,000 over here. Because nearly everyone still wants the best-looking car ever made, despite all its quality & handling shortcomings.
So, I might be in the minority here, but if someone wants to give £150,000 for my XJS, I'll be straight down the road to get my E-Type!
Paul
It seems like I'm in the minority but I'd swap my XJS for an E-Type in the blink of an eye. And I want the "least-loved" one the most - Series 3 V12
I've had my XJS convertible for 12 years and love her, but a Series 3 roadster is a thing of absolute beauty (as indeed is a Coupe IMO). With the V12 engine, it performs great. Is it a better handling car than my uprated 4 litre? No, but then a modern small Peugeot can probably run rings around my XJS anyway. Is it better-equipped than my XJS? No, but when you look out of the window, you can't see the wood dash and trip computer of the XJS, but you could see the beautiful feline shape of the E-Type!
I think that cars are "of their time". The E-Type is the 1960s personified and with the late V12 engine, is the ultimate variant. Why do they go for up to £200,000 over here. Because nearly everyone still wants the best-looking car ever made, despite all its quality & handling shortcomings.
So, I might be in the minority here, but if someone wants to give £150,000 for my XJS, I'll be straight down the road to get my E-Type!
Paul
I'd just love that Sexy Cat sitting on my drive.
The only problem being, I'd also have to have my XJS.