2007 4.2 coupe intermittent multiple errors car shutdown
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Hi, I have an intermittent problem with my Feb 2007 registered 4.2 XKR coupe with approx 40k miles.
It’s very intermittent, like once every 2 or 3 months or maybe 60+ journeys, it goes from running fine, can be half an hour into a journey or more, and it just stops running, multiple errors flash up, and it loses all power, I mean it can move but 5mph at best, it tends to happen under (medium) acceleration, but with no warning.
When I read the codes I get a large selection (attached last 2 reports) just about every module (apart from things like audio) have some errors - I clear them, and I’m back off and running perfectly for another couple of months!
when it fails and I pull over, restarting the car doesn’t fix it, the engine is lumpy like it’s running in 2 cylinders! Press accelerator and nothing happens. As soon as it’s cleared it’s fine.
I checked all the connections to modules and fuse board that I ca find, and can’t see any obvious issues, it’s all clean and dry.
Any suggestions? I’m at a bit of a loss, so far I have been lucky with it happening at times I can easily pull over, but one time it was on the motorway on-ramp, on to a “smart” motorway with no hard shoulder!
thanks, Paul.
It’s very intermittent, like once every 2 or 3 months or maybe 60+ journeys, it goes from running fine, can be half an hour into a journey or more, and it just stops running, multiple errors flash up, and it loses all power, I mean it can move but 5mph at best, it tends to happen under (medium) acceleration, but with no warning.
When I read the codes I get a large selection (attached last 2 reports) just about every module (apart from things like audio) have some errors - I clear them, and I’m back off and running perfectly for another couple of months!
when it fails and I pull over, restarting the car doesn’t fix it, the engine is lumpy like it’s running in 2 cylinders! Press accelerator and nothing happens. As soon as it’s cleared it’s fine.
I checked all the connections to modules and fuse board that I ca find, and can’t see any obvious issues, it’s all clean and dry.
Any suggestions? I’m at a bit of a loss, so far I have been lucky with it happening at times I can easily pull over, but one time it was on the motorway on-ramp, on to a “smart” motorway with no hard shoulder!
thanks, Paul.
Last edited by steely; 11-09-2021 at 09:25 AM.
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I don’t have access to SDD, when it fails I need to clear the codes or get the car collected on a trailer, so I keep a code reader with Jag software in the car, what sort of codes would I expect to see different to those in the uploaded report (they start end of page 2) ?
I visually checked earths and connectors, I don’t see any obvious issues, the odd thing is how intermittent it is, for example I drove a few hundred miles recently with no issue, then the last time it failed I was probably 30mins into a short journey, overtaking a truck uphill!
I visually checked earths and connectors, I don’t see any obvious issues, the odd thing is how intermittent it is, for example I drove a few hundred miles recently with no issue, then the last time it failed I was probably 30mins into a short journey, overtaking a truck uphill!
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It appears I didn't look far enough into your document/ Do you have the XK Service Manual. Its in a sticky at the top of the forum.
Some of those U codes are pretty dire. And for fear of being ripped by those that ignore the Service Manual, review the first thing stated in the list of items to check...
Some of those U codes are pretty dire. And for fear of being ripped by those that ignore the Service Manual, review the first thing stated in the list of items to check...
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Exact same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago on an on ramp accelerating hard in 3rd and all of a sudden like restricted performance but allot worse. But I got nothing no codes no cel nothing. Shut off motor restarted and life is good. Puzzling. My agm battery is on the way out so I figured that was the issue.
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Exact same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago on an on ramp accelerating hard in 3rd and all of a sudden like restricted performance but allot worse. But I got nothing no codes no cel nothing. Shut off motor restarted and life is good. Puzzling. My agm battery is on the way out so I figured that was the issue.
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I've had these same symptoms several times over the last three years. I might use the car for months without it happening and then, out of the blue I get restricted performance and errors. I've watched the faults popping up when it happens and I see things like the park brake and CATS failure popping up first.
So far, I've been able to pull over, turn off the car, and wait for a minute. I restart and it starts just fine, but with CEL illuminated, so I turn off and restart again. CEL doesn't come back on and everything is fine.
It does seem like a bad ground or something causing reset with the rear control module maybe, then things cascade from there.
Changed battery earlier this year. The voltage is definitely better and it's still happened about three times.
The only common thing I think I've noted is that it seems to happen when I've accelerated (not even hard) from a stop and the trans is shifting.
I have 126K miles on mine and I recently switched out the trans with a used one that has 59K a few weeks ago. I am waiting to see if that change helps, but the problem is so intermittent I won't know for a while.
So far, I've been able to pull over, turn off the car, and wait for a minute. I restart and it starts just fine, but with CEL illuminated, so I turn off and restart again. CEL doesn't come back on and everything is fine.
It does seem like a bad ground or something causing reset with the rear control module maybe, then things cascade from there.
Changed battery earlier this year. The voltage is definitely better and it's still happened about three times.
The only common thing I think I've noted is that it seems to happen when I've accelerated (not even hard) from a stop and the trans is shifting.
I have 126K miles on mine and I recently switched out the trans with a used one that has 59K a few weeks ago. I am waiting to see if that change helps, but the problem is so intermittent I won't know for a while.
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I also had some very strange intermittent problems on my 4.2 XK 2007.
After trying different solutions, and even though I had my battery checked (they said is was working OK) I decided to change the battery for a new one.
From then on the problems were solved but, after some time without running, the problems came back. I had to keep the battery fully charged from then on to avoid problems.
Perhaps this experience may help you.
Marcoshilario
After trying different solutions, and even though I had my battery checked (they said is was working OK) I decided to change the battery for a new one.
From then on the problems were solved but, after some time without running, the problems came back. I had to keep the battery fully charged from then on to avoid problems.
Perhaps this experience may help you.
Marcoshilario
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I also had some very strange intermittent problems on my 4.2 XK 2007.
After trying different solutions, and even though I had my battery checked (they said is was working OK) I decided to change the battery for a new one.
From then on the problems were solved but, after some time without running, the problems came back. I had to keep the battery fully charged from then on to avoid problems.
Perhaps this experience may help you.
Marcoshilario
After trying different solutions, and even though I had my battery checked (they said is was working OK) I decided to change the battery for a new one.
From then on the problems were solved but, after some time without running, the problems came back. I had to keep the battery fully charged from then on to avoid problems.
Perhaps this experience may help you.
Marcoshilario
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Unfortunately this is a common occurrence on our cars. From my experience I have found out that a weaker battery as if when it was sitting without a tender for a few days will do it. Also what I have found out that when I had an Agm battery overall voltage in the system was lower and I was having more issues with this shutdown. Switched back to regular lead acid battery And car is much better.
Another issue that I am suspecting is a worn out alternator, it still puts out voltage as it should but occasionally I hear alternator whine and voltages drops, so I suspect it could also be a contributing factor. We'll find out when I replace an alternator..
Another issue that I am suspecting is a worn out alternator, it still puts out voltage as it should but occasionally I hear alternator whine and voltages drops, so I suspect it could also be a contributing factor. We'll find out when I replace an alternator..
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Drag strip : 7.9sec 1/8mi 90 MPH . 1/4 mile 12.55 at 111.98mph
432rwh Dyno on Mustang Dynometer , Approx 511 crank HP.
2013 XJ 5.0 Supercharged, (stock with Alpha Jag ECU tune), estimated power: 600+ hp, 7.7sec 1.8th mi/95mph
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Thats actually a great find. OP definitely has an electrical problem. I had the same thing on a Testarossa. Turns out the connection ring on a cannon plug to an ECU was cracked and under hard acceleration, the connection would become loose. I would go over the car while its idling and jiggle every connector I could find including cleaning all grounding straps and battery terminals. Try to get it to fail. Oh, and load test the battery and buy a quality scanner.