ALRIGHT! I'm going to go with @jahummer's park aid power source for the back up camera "trigger" wire. I'm leaving the existing switched power (sourced from the aux power outlet in the trunk) in place (for now). I'm going to tear the dash components out tomorrow and install the video screen/head unit then.

I found a video (in Mandarin) showing some wizards connecting wires on the back of the video screen at roughly the speed of light and commenting in Mandarin, so I'm presuming that part will go swimmingly. I anticipate LOTS of pause and rewind moments as I slowly work my way through the assemble process.

Once I've eliminated the main connections, then I'll be able to see what's left over for the backup camera, and once connected what kind of a connection state & controls I've been gifted with this unit. I may need to trigger the backup camera screen manually, it may happen automatically, or both ... in which case I guess I'll be grateful for the persistently powered state via the aux power outlet in case I want to peep behind the car when not in reverse.

Gentlemen - thanks a ton for your support and assistance on this science project.

 

That was one of the threads I read through trying to make sense of the wiring options on this camera setup. Very elegant solution.

 

When I had my GVIF set up originally, I used the CA23 and the switched power source I referred to earlier. The switched power source powered the GVIF device. From the GVIF, I ran the camera. Worked like a charm.

I have no details on "why" the connection has to be wired all the time in the retrofit that Cambo/ Jeremy did, but Cambo is clear on post #43 that it is required. I assumed it had something to do with the programming that's done but didn't question it. doesn't matter.

When I did the retrofit, I no longer used GVIF for the backup camera and followed Jeremy's guide to do the complete retrofit (camera and iPod and USB).

Short answer, follow Jahummer's guide.

 

As Monte Python would say ...



I've heard back from the vendor, and they've confirmed some of our assumptions on the backup camera wiring:


I guessed right on how it connects to the back of the screen / head unit (though I remain unclear on what the two blue "antenna" are all about ...

And what the actual wires were for:

 

Quick update: back to the vendor for some answers. I've detailed the tear out and install process via pictures (to date), but I have two plugs that don't have homes and one attachment that appears to be incorrect (and without a home). I'll update L8R.

 

You definitely are feeling around in the dark without direction specific to the device you are installing. Finding out what wire are what on the Jaguar really is the easy part but hard to assist with theirs.

 

I'm close ... but not quite there. I've got a couple of closed-end loops that I'm going to try to randomly move around as three (3) of the factory dongle connectors are identical. I've got the screen working, connected to the internet, and all of the HVAC/heated steering wheel/heated seat functions are working, but I've got two notable errors (pre-loop move):

1) Hood open warning on the dashboard (though the car is not running - just switched "on", and
2) Volume control but no sound from the connected music.

So until I hear back from the vendor, this is pretty much me ... in the garage ... trying new connections:

 

Will be interesting to see if mine comes with a manual of some kind but probably not!:-) Still not arrived, will contact vendor tomorrow and ask where it is.
I'm somehow glad mine hasn't arrived yet and I read this thread and suck it in, makes my install hopefully easier! :-)
Thanks for sharing the installation! :-D

 

Well, I'm making progress. I discovered the ill-fitting part could be McGyver'ed (so I did) and FINALLY figured out where it attached: to the back of the trim piece as it controls the 4-way emergency flasher button on the other side. Pictoral discovery below:


This is the Jaguar dongle that manages the 4-way (I know that now)


This is the part that was supposed to fit into the Jaguar 4-way dongle. They broke the wrong side of it off. Sooo ... I cut it off, inserted it, taped it shut and plugged it in.

After MUCH searching on the media screen / new head unit, I FINALLY remembered there was a plug-in on the back of the outer trim piece. Yep. That tiny little plug went there.



So one down, two to go.

 

So, Jaguar experts - I'm left with two factory Jaguar dongles with no homes. I've activated the unit and most everything works ... except for no sound from the stereo speakers. Shown below are the unaccounted for dongles:



And now the back of the factory head unit where I believe they originally fit - it's up top behind the stereo portion of the screen:


Blue plug to blue hole is obvious. I believe the red plug goes in the top slot next to the various antenna connections

And here's the back of the new "Tesla style screen / head unit". Hmmm. An open slot. Me tinks they forgot an adapter.



So with the exception of sound ... and this dashboard error message ...



I'm kind of there. The HVAC controls all work, I'm connected to my iPhone via Bluetooth and "Personal Hotspot" for in-vehicle WiFi (I can press the "talk" button on the steering wheel and command a web browser), the volume up & down controls work, but no sound. I'll take this issue back to the Seller and see what they say.

Oh, and bonus round for you lads that provided so much input yesterday:



THE BACKUP CAMERA WORKS WHEN I PUT THE VEHICLE INTO REVERSE !!!!

 

So of the gray 12-pin Jag connector doesn’t fit the empty
12-pin slot on the back of the android unit? They look to be the same. As for
the blue Jag one, there isn’t a place for it on any of their connectors or harnesses?

 

blue plug is GVIF and I would guess irrelevant now? How many wires are on the 12 pin connector Kurt. Looks like its just power to the touchscreen and at first blush, also irrelevant. Pin 1 is power

 

I strongly suspect that's where it ultimately winds up as the "pattern" fits, but the plug won't. It's a Tommy Boy plug in an itty bitty suit.



I've messaged the seller suggesting they forgot to include a wiring loom for that connection. And @Sean W - I suspect you're right that with the new video connections, etc. that the blue GVIF plug is now "irrelevant".

Awaiting their overnight response. Thanks, lads.

 

Same amount of pins and similar shape....

EDIT: now I see your size reference pic, if you don't have anything like that then...ugh...may be able to fab one up faster than waiting on theirs?

 

See my note to Sean W below ...

 

Dang. I went back and looked at my removal pics, and you may be right about that dongle, Sean. It looks like just two wires (red & black), which is more than likely the power supply for that OEM screen unit.




The third OEM dongle (with the red tape around it) has two "twin" wire looms with identical end points that were connected elsewhere on the OEM head unit. The seller provided two (2) closed loop attachments that return whatever signal they emit back to the same wire. It appears to be a "red glow" based on my observation. Welp, back to moving those stupid closed loop things around. I thought I had experimented with every conceivable combination, but I may need to put a couple of quick labels on them to ensure I've closed the proper ones off. One of them buggers had better produce some SOUND from my audio unit!

One side note: I had installed an Audio Control Module (ACM) upgrade last year, and completely disconnected that entire loom and kind of "shoved" it back into the dash. This essentially restored the OEM wiring looms, which is what I'm 99.85% sure I'm using.

I'll double check on both of those things - as well as see what the Seller has to say - in the morning. Thanks!

 

What did you do with the supplied MOST ring loops that should
be connected to the ICM module?

 

could you share info on what you purchased and where you purchased it?

thanks
craig

 

Craig -

I posted that info earlier in the thread, but I found it through Alibaba dot com, and the vendor I used is named "Guangzhou Asvegen Electronic Technology Co., Ltd.", or Asvegen for short. There are a couple of vendors that provide that product via Alibaba. The general Forum guidance was to "go big" and get the units with larger memory (1,2 & 4 Gb are the options). I paid $973 all in, which included the shipping via UPS. I did not incur any US Customs delays or extra fees. Just go to Alibaba and search for "Tesla style screen for Jaguar" and you'll see a number of choices presented to you.

I'm headed out to the garage to move around some dongles (again) in an attempt to complete the installation process again this morning. There are obviously no instruction manuals or step-by-step diagrams provided by the vendor. They sent one crummy video showing two guys speaking in Mandarin connecting stuff at just below Warp Speed, so it's challenging to try and follow along on a laptop with the pausing & rewinding to see what they're doing visually.

Once I'm done with my installation, I'll piece together an installation "story" in a .pdf file and post it on the site for other non-technicians like myself to follow along.

Kurt

 

Here's the front stack MOST loop Kurt. Obviously one of the loops belongs on the Touch screen display. The red beam is correct and you should see it. As Jeremy mentions, since you've removed the IAM, you should use a loop there as well to complete the optic feed to the amp. Now what to do with the IECM?