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I've always loved this car. Happens to be the portfolio edition. I'm getting it for $13,500 plus around $1,500 shipping. Would buy sight. unseen. The car looks like it was kept in phenomenal condition considering the miles, worth the risk? Worst case repairs? Only lights on dash are TPMS. Thanks!
Not to throw salt on your party, but any car 10+ years old should be expected to have a few issues. Thus I would temper my enthusiasm until after having driven it for a few weeks to suss out any issues.
I've always loved this car. Happens to be the portfolio edition. I'm getting it for $13,500 plus around $1,500 shipping. Would buy sight. unseen. The car looks like it was kept in phenomenal condition considering the miles, worth the risk? Worst case repairs? Only lights on dash are TPMS. Thanks!
from the seller.
Is it a coupe or convertible? What color is the interior? Does it have the optional Alcon Performance Brake Package? Does it have the original Selena wheels?
What kind of due diligence did you do before you decided to buy it? There are so many things that can go wrong with a 10-year old car that the list is too long to include here. I hope you didn't rely on CarFax.
The worst case repairs will cost more than you paid for the car. I know you've already bought it, so it's too late now to pay a Jaguar dealer to do a Pre-Purchase Inspection using the Jaguar Certified Pre-Owned Checklist. That would have told you what mechanically work it needs and the cost, which you could have used to negotiate a lower price from the seller.
I hope you didn't buy a can of worms.
P.S. Although it appears that you're in the USA, you need to update your Public Profile to identify your location and create a signature block with details of your car and your location. This is an international Forum and the X150 models vary by world markets. That way, we won't have to keep asking where you are and the year and model of your car.
Last edited by Stuart S; 09-01-2020 at 01:58 PM.
Reason: Added P.S.
Alcon brakes are standard on 2009 Portfolio i believe.
Nope. The North American market 4.2L XKR Portfolio models were made in 2008 (Celestial Black and 20" Cremona wheels) and 2009 (Shadow Gray with 20" Selena wheels). Alcon brakes were standard equipment on the 2008 and a $5,000 option on the 2009. At that time, they were the largest brakes ever fitted to a production Jaguar. Alcons have 6-piston front calipers with 400mm crescent-shaped grooved disks and 4-piston rear calipers with 380mm crescent-shaped grooved disks. Here's the front disk and rotor from my 2009 with Selena wheels.
If this is the Gray Portfolio edition for sale right now, the dealer states it has a salvage title. Be sure to check this out carefully. If the salvage title is from accident damage, get pictures and be sure to have a body shop inspect the car. It goes without saying that you should have a qualified mechanic do a PPI on the car as well. Plan on replacing all fluids (brake, coolant, transmission, oil, power steering, etc.) unless you have records indicating this has been done recently. Some of the bushings on the suspension components will most likely need to be replaced as well as the accessory drive belt due to age/mileage. Replace the cabin air filter (easy) and the engine air filters. I've seen normally-aspirated 4.2 X150's with tons of miles on them (up to 290k) and they can run well if maintained. Check the age of the battery. If it is pushing 4-5 years or more, best to plan for a replacement soon.
If a deal seems to be too good to be true, there's a reason. A salvage title is a red flag for a car that was declared a total loss by the insurance company.
If a salvage title is due to flood damage, electrical problems are likely to occur later on as trapped moisture, and particularly salt water, continues to seep into the electrical connectors and expensive electronic modules. It's just a matter of time.
Buyer beware, and don't believe anything the seller says. He's here today and gone tomorrow. Find another car.
The dealer states:
"2009 JAGUAR XKR COUPE, PORTFOLIO PACKAGE,
SUPERCHARGED 4.2L, 420HP. Comes with the rebuilt title due to water damage. This car was standing in a foot deep water and the water did seep inside from bottom door jams wetting the carpet and the bottom seat control modules. We removed the carpet for inspection, replaced the seat control modules, and put the carpet back. Nothing else was replaced or damaged.
We have a very thorough and detailed process that these cars go thru before they are put up for sale. We inspect everything under the carpet. There was no water in the engine or transmission. The car is in excellent shape all the way. We also keep original Insurance photos showing the actual condition of the car when brought in by Insurance company, we can send those to you upon request."
Water evaporates, so the photos probably don't tell the entire story.
That reminds me of the story about the farmer and his three beautiful daughters, a blonde, a brunette, and a redhead. One day, a traveling tractor salesman stopped by and during their conversation the farmer mentioned that he had three eligible daughters. When the salesman met them, he couldn't decide as they were all very beautiful. He told the farmer that he couldn't decide which one to marry, so the farmer told him that his blonde daughter was just a little bit cross-eyed and the salesman said, what about your daughter with brown hair? And the farmer explained that she was just a little bit bowlegged. So the salesman said: "I'll take your daughter with red hair." And the farmer was delighted and told him that she was just a little bit pregnant.
The moral of the story is that you can't tell a book by its cover. It may look great on the outside, but it's what you don't see that really matters. Don't be fooled.
For potential future readers, I know a few people who make a living rebuilding salvage cars. Salvage, even water damage is not always a bad thing but it really takes an expert to determine if it is a good opportunity or a risky gamble. Pricing should be thousands less than a non-branded equivalent. Also some states do not permit registration and some insurance companies will not cover branded VINs.
In this particular example unless the seller was providing a full warranty (unlikely) the asking price was not all
that competitive, with the value likely closer to less than half the asking price.
Price seems a little to good to be true. The salvage title would concern for hidden issues and any registering or resale. I agree with warranty. In MA we have a used vehicle warranty law which applies to dealers. Car has to be sold for >$700 and have less than 125K miles. Salvaged titled cars are included. A dealer is classified as having sold at least 3 cars in the past 12 months. There is also a full disclosure provision for private to private party sales. The law also applies with some more specific provisions/terms. May be a good idea to check laws of the state where vehicles are sold also.
I've always loved this car. Happens to be the portfolio edition. I'm getting it for $13,500 plus around $1,500 shipping. Would buy sight. unseen. The car looks like it was kept in phenomenal condition considering the miles, worth the risk? Worst case repairs? Only lights on dash are TPMS. Thanks!
Last edited by Texasdang87; 09-03-2020 at 07:44 PM.
I love the car I have done my research and found out that a lot of people were having problems with electrical problems I do electronics and if you noticed I acidity put pic of a stereo sorry but I got my car in March with only 44000 miles on it I had to jump start it at the dealer to test drive it I still got it and had a few problems starting it so I thought about it and was trying to determine what was going on with it I started with the key I changed the battery it was $6.00 at autozone and have no problems at all I drive my car every day and it is amazing if you don’t know how to fix cars this is not the car for you unless you want to pay $$$ to your mechanic. I paid $14,000 for my xk8 loving it
I have an '08 Portfolio Edition coupe in Celestial Black with about 40,000 miles on it. Fantastic car to drive, a grand touring car, not a sports car. In 15,000 since I picked it up 3 years ago, I had a diff seal leak that needed replacement. Other than that item, pull fuse 18 on the rear seat panel block and listen to it sing every day on the way to the office. Great motor, great power, great sound Mine has Alcons, and I purchased the 4 replacement rotors while they were still available and reasonably priced and sealed and stored them. Salvage titles are risky as other have stated. And as resales, they are hard to move, even at big discounts to market for clean cars.