Advantages of the 4.2 engine over the 5.0?
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0-60 has more to do with gearing and traction than total hp, with equal traction and gearing the 5.0 will be faster no matter how tweaked the 4.2 is..
Alexjag has done great work with his car and tune but it is not stock by any means and runs slower et and mph than my bone stock 11 convertible.
Im sure with equal mods the 5.0 would destroy the 4.2 at any speed..
Alexjag has done great work with his car and tune but it is not stock by any means and runs slower et and mph than my bone stock 11 convertible.
Im sure with equal mods the 5.0 would destroy the 4.2 at any speed..
Your car is way off the pace for the quarter mile terminal speed compared to an XKR-S (118mph) though and that is a much better indication of real power as these cars are very traction limited off the line.
The difference in mid range power and torque between a 4.2 and 5 litre is quite noticeable when you drive them and even more so once you start tweaking the 5 litre.
The difference in mid range power and torque between a 4.2 and 5 litre is quite noticeable when you drive them and even more so once you start tweaking the 5 litre.
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0-60 has more to do with gearing and traction than total hp, with equal traction and gearing the 5.0 will be faster no matter how tweaked the 4.2 is..
Alexjag has done great work with his car and tune but it is not stock by any means and runs slower et and mph than my bone stock 11 convertible.
Im sure with equal mods the 5.0 would destroy the 4.2 at any speed..
Alexjag has done great work with his car and tune but it is not stock by any means and runs slower et and mph than my bone stock 11 convertible.
Im sure with equal mods the 5.0 would destroy the 4.2 at any speed..
btw have you taken you convertible to the track? Don't forget DA numbers at different tracks make a good amount of difference. Here in Southern Ca we don't have a single 1/4 mi track near sea level , calculated DA around 2000ft at track where I hit 112mph and 12.5 , if it was at sea level the numbers would be around 12.3 and 114 mph . Some tracks actually have a negative DA which makes the car even faster..
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as it says in my sig
2011 XKR Black on Black Convertible (stock)
12.2@115.3 Alamo Raceway,Tx
taken it to track couple times .. Yes your car is pretty close and no one can doubt you have done a great job of making it faster, but it is highly modified (pulley,tune,intercooler pump,cats,thermostat) compared to a stock 4.2.
So we go back to if I did same mods I would be way faster,you can mod anything to be faster but mod for mod a 4.2 will always be slower.
Not important to everyone,a lot dont even care,,to me I would never buy the lesser car unless the price difference was huge and for our cars it really isnt.
But thats just me,like I said above to others that may not matter at all.
This was against a full bolt on Coyote 5.0 Mustang,, treed him and left him..
2011 XKR Black on Black Convertible (stock)
12.2@115.3 Alamo Raceway,Tx
taken it to track couple times .. Yes your car is pretty close and no one can doubt you have done a great job of making it faster, but it is highly modified (pulley,tune,intercooler pump,cats,thermostat) compared to a stock 4.2.
So we go back to if I did same mods I would be way faster,you can mod anything to be faster but mod for mod a 4.2 will always be slower.
Not important to everyone,a lot dont even care,,to me I would never buy the lesser car unless the price difference was huge and for our cars it really isnt.
But thats just me,like I said above to others that may not matter at all.
This was against a full bolt on Coyote 5.0 Mustang,, treed him and left him..
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as it says in my sig
2011 XKR Black on Black Convertible (stock)
12.2@115.3 Alamo Raceway,Tx
taken it to track couple times .. Yes your car is pretty close and no one can doubt you have done a great job of making it faster, but it is highly modified (pulley,tune,intercooler pump,cats,thermostat) compared to a stock 4.2.
So we go back to if I did same mods I would be way faster,you can mod anything to be faster but mod for mod a 4.2 will always be slower.
Not important to everyone,a lot dont even care,,to me I would never buy the lesser car unless the price difference was huge and for our cars it really isnt.
But thats just me,like I said above to others that may not matter at all.
This was against a full bolt on Coyote 5.0 Mustang,, treed him and left him..
https://youtu.be/JX5Ccz7ZO_s
2011 XKR Black on Black Convertible (stock)
12.2@115.3 Alamo Raceway,Tx
taken it to track couple times .. Yes your car is pretty close and no one can doubt you have done a great job of making it faster, but it is highly modified (pulley,tune,intercooler pump,cats,thermostat) compared to a stock 4.2.
So we go back to if I did same mods I would be way faster,you can mod anything to be faster but mod for mod a 4.2 will always be slower.
Not important to everyone,a lot dont even care,,to me I would never buy the lesser car unless the price difference was huge and for our cars it really isnt.
But thats just me,like I said above to others that may not matter at all.
This was against a full bolt on Coyote 5.0 Mustang,, treed him and left him..
https://youtu.be/JX5Ccz7ZO_s
I fully agree with you, if both modified 5.0 will be faster.
We ECU tuned XFR a few months ago at it is well under 12 sec with tune and pulley, we added a 50 shot of nitrous and hit 11.4 . Speaking of which are you interested in Remap for yours?
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2008 XKR Convertible, (mods: AlphaJagTuning ECU Tune , 1.5lb pulley, (200cel cats( are now melted), xpipe, Bosch 001 pump, 180 Thermostat.
Drag strip : 7.9sec 1/8mi 90 MPH . 1/4 mile 12.55 at 111.98mph
432rwh Dyno on Mustang Dynometer , Approx 511 crank HP.
2013 XJ 5.0 Supercharged, (stock with Alpha Jag ECU tune), estimated power: 600+ hp, 7.7sec 1.8th mi/95mph
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Drag strip : 7.9sec 1/8mi 90 MPH . 1/4 mile 12.55 at 111.98mph
432rwh Dyno on Mustang Dynometer , Approx 511 crank HP.
2013 XJ 5.0 Supercharged, (stock with Alpha Jag ECU tune), estimated power: 600+ hp, 7.7sec 1.8th mi/95mph
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It was horribly hot so both cars were well off the pace but I met a Trackhawk today ![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI3txlEWSCo
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I sure dont , it was around 60deg and humid is the most I can remember,,they were asking us to rev our engines
before we got to the staging area because everyones exhaust was leaking water on the track. :-D
As for tune, not for now,,been out of work due to covid (i run sound for large events)
and we are just now starting to plan shows,,probably be end of year before I have caught up on bills and such ..
before we got to the staging area because everyones exhaust was leaking water on the track. :-D
As for tune, not for now,,been out of work due to covid (i run sound for large events)
and we are just now starting to plan shows,,probably be end of year before I have caught up on bills and such ..
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New Corvette was trying to beat me all night long we probably raced four or five times but outcome was the same. Not too bad for the old 4.2
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2008 XKR Convertible, (mods: AlphaJagTuning ECU Tune , 1.5lb pulley, (200cel cats( are now melted), xpipe, Bosch 001 pump, 180 Thermostat.
Drag strip : 7.9sec 1/8mi 90 MPH . 1/4 mile 12.55 at 111.98mph
432rwh Dyno on Mustang Dynometer , Approx 511 crank HP.
2013 XJ 5.0 Supercharged, (stock with Alpha Jag ECU tune), estimated power: 600+ hp, 7.7sec 1.8th mi/95mph
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Drag strip : 7.9sec 1/8mi 90 MPH . 1/4 mile 12.55 at 111.98mph
432rwh Dyno on Mustang Dynometer , Approx 511 crank HP.
2013 XJ 5.0 Supercharged, (stock with Alpha Jag ECU tune), estimated power: 600+ hp, 7.7sec 1.8th mi/95mph
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I would be pretty please with that but, assuming you have a slip, what were the 60 foot times for the Corvette because it looks like it was struggling for traction?
Based on the factory specs of 11.2@123 mph 1/4 mile and 0-60 in 3 seconds the Corvette should be a lot quicker than that over the 1/8th mile. I would expect it to be in the 7's and knocking on the door of 100mph not 8.45@91.46 mph so I would be pretty fed up if I was the Corvette owner.
Based on the factory specs of 11.2@123 mph 1/4 mile and 0-60 in 3 seconds the Corvette should be a lot quicker than that over the 1/8th mile. I would expect it to be in the 7's and knocking on the door of 100mph not 8.45@91.46 mph so I would be pretty fed up if I was the Corvette owner.
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"Ask the man who owns one" was the advertising slogan for Packard. I had a '52 Packard years ago so your comment prompted a memory. I may be the only person on this forum that remembers the slogan.
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The important question is not "do you remember the Packard slogan", but rather "do you remember what you ate for breakfast today?"
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