Aftermarket quality vs OEM front forward lower control arms (C2P17091)?
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Lemfoerder is the OEM. Can't find it offered, though only a few minutes searching. Lemfoerder control arms, similar design for Merc and BMW, go for about $150-180. They're probably out there.
Second option is to source the Lem bushing. Available for BMW. Haven't seen one for Jag, tho, but again, only a superficial search for me.
Eurospare has a complete arm offered through EMEuropean for $85, a huge discount from Jag's $595. Haven't heard many reviews on Eurospare suspension parts, though the Ferrari forums speak well of them. I replaced my front uppers with Eurospare, seem fine after 6 months.
Second option is to source the Lem bushing. Available for BMW. Haven't seen one for Jag, tho, but again, only a superficial search for me.
Eurospare has a complete arm offered through EMEuropean for $85, a huge discount from Jag's $595. Haven't heard many reviews on Eurospare suspension parts, though the Ferrari forums speak well of them. I replaced my front uppers with Eurospare, seem fine after 6 months.
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Lemfoerder is the OEM. Can't find it offered, though only a few minutes searching. Lemfoerder control arms, similar design for Merc and BMW, go for about $150-180. They're probably out there.
Second option is to source the Lem bushing. Available for BMW. Haven't seen one for Jag, tho, but again, only a superficial search for me.
Eurospare has a complete arm offered through EMEuropean for $85, a huge discount from Jag's $595. Haven't heard many reviews on Eurospare suspension parts, though the Ferrari forums speak well of them. I replaced my front uppers with Eurospare, seem fine after 6 months.
Second option is to source the Lem bushing. Available for BMW. Haven't seen one for Jag, tho, but again, only a superficial search for me.
Eurospare has a complete arm offered through EMEuropean for $85, a huge discount from Jag's $595. Haven't heard many reviews on Eurospare suspension parts, though the Ferrari forums speak well of them. I replaced my front uppers with Eurospare, seem fine after 6 months.
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Although most aftermarket suppliers list LEMFÖRDER which is the OEM, I was surprised to find alternative manufacturer replacements for C2P17091 are available at much lower cost. There must be a large volume vehicle manufacturer using the same part and therefore a large replacement market to justify tooling costs.
I use OEM for everything except brake discs and pads and keep an eye open for aftermarket sources. The lowest I've seen for C2P17091 is Berkshire Jag Components:
https://www.berkshirejagcomponents.c...91-c2x18823456
Using OEM and shipping has to be worth considering as it's not too far from the alternative manufacturer cost.
Graham
I use OEM for everything except brake discs and pads and keep an eye open for aftermarket sources. The lowest I've seen for C2P17091 is Berkshire Jag Components:
https://www.berkshirejagcomponents.c...91-c2x18823456
Using OEM and shipping has to be worth considering as it's not too far from the alternative manufacturer cost.
Graham
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Side by side the welds weren't complete like the OEM and the actual rod were thinner would not recommend this brand
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Very surprising. Lems have always been the gold standard OEM (Jag, BMW, Merc, many others) alternatives for high end Euro cars. Wish I could find the bushings alone.
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Although most aftermarket suppliers list LEMFÖRDER which is the OEM, I was surprised to find alternative manufacturer replacements for C2P17091 are available at much lower cost. There must be a large volume vehicle manufacturer using the same part and therefore a large replacement market to justify tooling costs.
I use OEM for everything except brake discs and pads and keep an eye open for aftermarket sources. The lowest I've seen for C2P17091 is Berkshire Jag Components:
https://www.berkshirejagcomponents.c...91-c2x18823456
Using OEM and shipping has to be worth considering as it's not too far from the alternative manufacturer cost.
Graham
I use OEM for everything except brake discs and pads and keep an eye open for aftermarket sources. The lowest I've seen for C2P17091 is Berkshire Jag Components:
https://www.berkshirejagcomponents.c...91-c2x18823456
Using OEM and shipping has to be worth considering as it's not too far from the alternative manufacturer cost.
Graham
I'm guessing the "banana arm" is the front lower control arm, by its description. I have access to a press to replace mine. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks
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I am not sure this exactly surprises me. The OEM Jaguar parts might be the same design on the surface. But Jaguar should have a supplier quality engineering rep/ more specifications in order to be branded as a Jaguar part and continuous conformance testing. The ones that don't pass there specs are branded as lemfoerder lol.
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But something which has been discussed frequently on these forums is when Ford owned Jaguar, a good percentage of suspension parts used on several Ford/Lincoln models were actually Jaguar parts and thusly you may find the Ford part number equivalents again a significant savings over Jaguar supplied.
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Honestly, I've rebuilt probably 50 front ends between my family, my own and my friends cars. Most being affordable American Big Three; GM W-Body being one I think I've done the most (Impala, Grand Prix, some Buicks, etc). I've used the cheapest crap front end parts bought on ebay with Buy It Now + Sort=Lowest Price + Shipping with great success on those GMs. They've lasted as long as the OEMs on those cars. I rebuilt my former X308 with bushings and ball joints mostly by "Uro" (where the U for some reason has oomlauts) and after 20k it still was great when I moved on from the car; not that is a major milestone of time. I've used a lot of coolant hoses from that brand too with no problems at all.
Honestly, if you are paying someone to do the work; I'd go with Jaguar or an OEM. If you're doing it yourself, depending on how you value your time and your risk tolerance, consider an aftermarket option with a good warranty. I'll say if it's a complete control arm, quick strut or similar assembly where they've effectively eliminated the need for me to press crap out and in or change mounting plates and compress springs, I'm much more willing to try the aftermarket than if it failing means I've in my basement messing with my press.
Honestly, if you are paying someone to do the work; I'd go with Jaguar or an OEM. If you're doing it yourself, depending on how you value your time and your risk tolerance, consider an aftermarket option with a good warranty. I'll say if it's a complete control arm, quick strut or similar assembly where they've effectively eliminated the need for me to press crap out and in or change mounting plates and compress springs, I'm much more willing to try the aftermarket than if it failing means I've in my basement messing with my press.
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