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Old 08-29-2020, 12:18 PM
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Jaguar Land Rover to continue AJ V8 production in-house


https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/jaguar-land-rover-continue-aj-v8-production-house

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Old 08-29-2020, 01:23 PM
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Once JLR sorted out water pump issue it turned out to be a very decent engine. Why would they go and replace a good thing with horribly unreliable BMW twin-turbo V8? So Jaguar owners could also partake in disposable rod bearings and VANOS issues? Because Jaguars got too reliable these days?
 
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It looks like a regulations issue making the AJ not suitable ..??..
 
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It looks like a regulations issue making the AJ not suitable ..??..
Yes most likely emissions .

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Yes most likely emissions .

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Blame California
 
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Blame California
Agreed, Who needs the ozone layer anyways.
 
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The rumor of Jaguar planning to use BMW engines is spread by some not very reliable newspapers for more than 6 years now....

it’s not totally impossible, but it is at this stage also only a rumor maybe basing on the fact Jaguar and BMW do have a partnership on electric engines.

While it could make technically and financially sense, from a marketing point of view it would be very damaging though, so I don’t believe in it at this stage.
 
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Agreed, Who needs the ozone layer anyways.
Agreed, and we all know who's damaging it the most

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/eac...-co2-emissions

Albeit China has 4x the population of the US and don't believe Jags highly efficient V8 adds anything meaningful to the total

Back on topic the UK has some truly inspired mechanical engineering resource but mostly chooses not to utilise it
 
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JLR has already used the BMW V8 and it was an awful engine IMO. I don't see any upside to using BMW parts in a car.
 
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.......................... I don't see any upside to using BMW parts in a car.
Truer words were never spoken.
Not even for a BMW.
Awful cars.
 
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Originally Posted by MarkyUK
Agreed, and we all know who's damaging it the most

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/eac...-co2-emissions

Albeit China has 4x the population of the US and don't believe Jags highly efficient V8 adds anything meaningful to the total

Back on topic the UK has some truly inspired mechanical engineering resource but mostly chooses not to utilise it
 
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Originally Posted by SinF
Once JLR sorted out water pump issue it turned out to be a very decent engine. Why would they go and replace a good thing with horribly unreliable BMW twin-turbo V8? So Jaguar owners could also partake in disposable rod bearings and VANOS issues? Because Jaguars got too reliable these days?
When was the water pump ever sorted? Not only have I gone through multiples on late model Land Rovers, but the main dealer told me even the newest models are still using the same water pump.
 
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When was the water pump ever sorted? Not only have I gone through multiples on late model Land Rovers, but the main dealer told me even the newest models are still using the same water pump.
I never hear about F-types having water pump issues. I read somewhere that 2015.5 and later have a water pump design that is not faulty. Maybe F-types are still too new? Time will tell.
 
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My water pump is still great at 68,000 miles. Maybe it's not so much a defect as a deficiency?
 
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Originally Posted by thierry_1500
it’s not totally impossible, but it is at this stage also only a rumor maybe basing on the fact Jaguar and BMW do have a partnership on electric engines.

While it could make technically and financially sense, from a marketing point of view it would be very damaging though, so I don’t believe in it at this stage.
Apparently by the time EURO7 comes into force, the current engine, which was released 11 years ago already, will not pass. JLR sales is not high-volume enough to pay for a new V8. If they are planning to retain V8 models, they must know in advance what that engine is going to be like at least from the point of view of dimensions. They need a partner to work with. Many of the JLR management came from BMW and still have contacts their. The rumours are likely to have some truth behind them.

At about the same time as the BMW link was first being mentioned, Aston Martin was to buy the Mercedes/AMG engine. I believe that is no longer a rumour.

It will be a sad day when the heart of the biggest Jaguars is no longer a Jaguar engine but it does appear to be the way it will go. I like the sound of the AMG engine but I don't personally trust BMW quality quite as much.
 

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Originally Posted by neilr
It will be a sad day when the heart of the biggest Jaguars is no longer a Jaguar engine but it does appear to be the way it will go. I like the sound of the AMG engine but I don't personally trust BMW quality quite as much.
JLR has been doing its best not promote V8's for some time. Only a few models are V8's and all the finance deals are on V6's.

I hate the sound of the AMG V8; has to be among the worst sounding V8's IMO. Quality engine from a reliability and power stance. Would much rather see JLR (and Aston Martin) use a Ford based engine. At least Aston is continuing with a Ford manufactured V12 for now.
 
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Originally Posted by jahummer
When was the water pump ever sorted?
It gets sorted out each time they replace it!
 
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🤦🏻‍♂️ Indeed
 
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
JLR has been doing its best not promote V8's for some time. Only a few models are V8's and all the finance deals are on V6's.

I hate the sound of the AMG V8; has to be among the worst sounding V8's IMO. Quality engine from a reliability and power stance. Would much rather see JLR (and Aston Martin) use a Ford based engine. At least Aston is continuing with a Ford manufactured V12 for now.
I should not have used the word "sound" By sound, I meant idea!

The AMG unit is hand made at the AMG works and is still a bit special in this day and age of mass-produced stuff. It looks special except that it is set so far back in an AMG GT, you can barely see it. I have no problem with it. I expect it is easier to sell a Mercedes AMG engine in a luxury brand than a Ford one.
 
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Originally Posted by neilr
I expect it is easier to sell a Mercedes AMG engine in a luxury brand than a Ford one.
Maybe in the past but not so much now.
 
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