Battery drain/OBD accuracy
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Battery drain/OBD accuracy
Yes, I know battery drain has been covered many times. My contribution is check the accuracy of the OBD connect. Brand of my bad OBD connect is Veepeak. I was ready to replace the alternator based on OBD/Fusion showing 13.8 (while driving) and dropping to 13.2 at idle. Decide to double check using a cigarette insert voltage display. It showed 14.2 dropping to 14.1 at idle. Connected DVOM directly to battery while running. Same 14.2 Removed OBD 1, installed spare. Now insert voltage and OBD/Fusion same number. Great no new alternator needed. Battery is 2 years old. Only charges to 12.5 w/ C-tek connect multiple days. New battery time.
Next problem is to figure out 320 mA drain when car is fully asleep. This is with AC off, stereo off, infotainment screen black and single button lock. It used to take 2 clicks to beep. Wonder how long a new AGM battery will hold enough juice to start the car. Car stored in a shed and I drive when weather is nice. Charger isn't an option.
Thanks for any feedback. Hope everyone has great weather to drive.
Next problem is to figure out 320 mA drain when car is fully asleep. This is with AC off, stereo off, infotainment screen black and single button lock. It used to take 2 clicks to beep. Wonder how long a new AGM battery will hold enough juice to start the car. Car stored in a shed and I drive when weather is nice. Charger isn't an option.
Thanks for any feedback. Hope everyone has great weather to drive.
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320mA is a massive drain and should not be too difficult to trace by pulling/testing fuses whilst the car is fully asleep. The car can be fooled into thinking that all doors/bonnet/boot etc are closed.
As a rough calculation, assume that the battery is 100 Ah and that you are prepared to allow it to run down to 50% charge before you start to see faults appearing. That's 50A delivered in an hour so 320 mA would take 156 hours or about a week.
Richard
As a rough calculation, assume that the battery is 100 Ah and that you are prepared to allow it to run down to 50% charge before you start to see faults appearing. That's 50A delivered in an hour so 320 mA would take 156 hours or about a week.
Richard
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I had the same problem, and sorted it for about £20. I bought a 9W solar panel and charging controller off eBay, put it on the roof of the garage, and connected to the battery when I left the car inside.
Now I have a different problem because I have lost the use of the shed. I have found a similar, cheap solution. A small solar panel that sits most of the time on top of the dashboard and is permanently connected.
I did a brief write-up about this with photos a year or two ago. Maybe a Forum search by Google for solar panel will turn it up?
Now I have a different problem because I have lost the use of the shed. I have found a similar, cheap solution. A small solar panel that sits most of the time on top of the dashboard and is permanently connected.
I did a brief write-up about this with photos a year or two ago. Maybe a Forum search by Google for solar panel will turn it up?
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320mA is a massive drain and should not be too difficult to trace by pulling/testing fuses whilst the car is fully asleep. The car can be fooled into thinking that all doors/bonnet/boot etc are closed.
As a rough calculation, assume that the battery is 100 Ah and that you are prepared to allow it to run down to 50% charge before you start to see faults appearing. That's 50A delivered in an hour so 320 mA would take 156 hours or about a week.
Richard
As a rough calculation, assume that the battery is 100 Ah and that you are prepared to allow it to run down to 50% charge before you start to see faults appearing. That's 50A delivered in an hour so 320 mA would take 156 hours or about a week.
Richard
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For anyone new to using a "clamp amp", placement of clamp at right angle to the battery cable, centered as close as possible and in the same place each time are the keys. I tried moving the clamp up and down the cable and at different angles. Got very different numbers. Not much wiggle room with a trunk mount XKR 'vert battery.
I'll check again tonight. Maybe 40mA based on earlier today.
I'll check again tonight. Maybe 40mA based on earlier today.
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For any one new to using a "clamp amp", placement of clamp at right angle to the battery cable, centered as close as possible and in the same place each time are the keys. I tried moving the clamp up and down the cable and at different angles. Got very different numbers. Not much wiggle room with a trunk mount XKR 'vert battery.
I'll check again tonight. Maybe 40mA based on earlier today.
I'll check again tonight. Maybe 40mA based on earlier today.
Richard
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Huh, must be a 5.0 thing, as my 2007 is always unlocked in the garage, and I occasionally open a door to grab something I need without having the key with me.
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It does it to me also when I forget my key. Unlocked and alarm sounds when either door is opened. I said a wife thing because she beats me to her door by several feet and had to train herself to wait until I was closer before she opens it.
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Unlocked...
I have mine set up that a single click unlocks only the drivers. Lot 's of my driving does not include my GF...so the passenger door remains "locked'. Assume I have parked the xk without 'locking', the next day I walk up with key in pocket and she goes to her side
If she tries to open the p door she is greeted with the alarm, if I had been a considerate BF and walked around to open the door for her (with key in pocket) the door is opened, she sits down and smiles... all is well.
ymmv
WJ
I have mine set up that a single click unlocks only the drivers. Lot 's of my driving does not include my GF...so the passenger door remains "locked'. Assume I have parked the xk without 'locking', the next day I walk up with key in pocket and she goes to her side
If she tries to open the p door she is greeted with the alarm, if I had been a considerate BF and walked around to open the door for her (with key in pocket) the door is opened, she sits down and smiles... all is well.
ymmv
WJ
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Both XK/R FSJB and RSJB are different between 2007-09, 2010-11 and 2012-15.
Could still be a software issue, as it was the subject of a TSB early on.
Another reason to check for the latest updates.
Quiescent current investigation sounds like a fun project.
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Success. Key is keep the clamp far enough from the battery. The clamp, near it, reads 220mA. I pulled the positive cable out and away from the battery. Clamp centered and at right angle. Got 20-30mA. Two year old lead acid battery seems to be holding a charge. Learning curve but the clamp is handy. I've removed the panel that covers the battery so easy access. If I don't see battery voltage drop over the next few weeks, will reinstall and stop worrying about it.
I shut the stereo off, climate off, infortainment screen to black and lock the doors. Seems to work.
Richard, agree meter wired in series is more accurate. Hopefully I won't have to trace circuits. Thanks for your help.
Guy, thanks for the feedback on AGM.
Bill400, thanks for the Quiescent Testing Guide.
CJ, found an 2011 XKR in Santa Rosa which is a 2.5 hour drive. It sold in 2 days. Looking forward to driving (buying?) one sometime. In the meantime, will enjoy my "slow" 07
I shut the stereo off, climate off, infortainment screen to black and lock the doors. Seems to work.
Richard, agree meter wired in series is more accurate. Hopefully I won't have to trace circuits. Thanks for your help.
Guy, thanks for the feedback on AGM.
Bill400, thanks for the Quiescent Testing Guide.
CJ, found an 2011 XKR in Santa Rosa which is a 2.5 hour drive. It sold in 2 days. Looking forward to driving (buying?) one sometime. In the meantime, will enjoy my "slow" 07
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