XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014

Blackstone oil analysis 07 XK

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-21-2014, 06:43 PM
2007 Rick's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NorCal
Posts: 90
Received 11 Likes on 8 Posts
Default Blackstone oil analysis 07 XK

Greetings to all...........Wanted to pass along my oil analysis for my 07 XK. The car has 35k on the clock and the car is driven moderately. The analysis was done with Castrol 5-30w and had been used with a premium filter. The oil had approximately 7300 mi of use. Results showed slightly elevated wear levels and the tbn analysis (life left in oil) was basically gone. For this oil to go another 2500 mi. would not be realistic.

With all the hyperbole about oil changes, brands and many unfounded opions (my dad always did it that way etc) I hope this is helpful to the forum. I just changed my oil (-: Be safe.
 
The following 2 users liked this post by 2007 Rick:
jahummer (03-21-2014), plums (03-22-2014)
  #2  
Old 03-21-2014, 06:59 PM
richzak's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,292
Received 1,233 Likes on 789 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 2007 Rick
Greetings to all...........Wanted to pass along my oil analysis for my 07 XK. The car has 35k on the clock and the car is driven moderately. The analysis was done with Castrol 5-30w and had been used with a premium filter. The oil had approximately 7300 mi of use. Results showed slightly elevated wear levels and the tbn analysis (life left in oil) was basically gone. For this oil to go another 2500 mi. would not be realistic.

With all the hyperbole about oil changes, brands and many unfounded opions (my dad always did it that way etc) I hope this is helpful to the forum. I just changed my oil (-: Be safe.
Are you suggesting that we change the oil more frequently?

For my XKR, Jaguar suggests Castrol 5W20.......would that make a difference?
 
  #3  
Old 03-21-2014, 09:05 PM
M6XKR's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 106
Received 28 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 2007 Rick
Greetings to all...........Wanted to pass along my oil analysis for my 07 XK. The car has 35k on the clock and the car is driven moderately. The analysis was done with Castrol 5-30w and had been used with a premium filter. The oil had approximately 7300 mi of use. Results showed slightly elevated wear levels and the tbn analysis (life left in oil) was basically gone. For this oil to go another 2500 mi. would not be realistic.

With all the hyperbole about oil changes, brands and many unfounded opions (my dad always did it that way etc) I hope this is helpful to the forum. I just changed my oil (-: Be safe.
Very interesting! I have not heard of that test/analysis. It would be very interesting to see some qualitative results after repeating this test using different oils.
 
  #4  
Old 03-21-2014, 09:10 PM
amcdonal86's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Arlington, VA USA
Posts: 6,290
Received 483 Likes on 404 Posts
Default

Interesting. I'm having my oil changed after 1 year and about 5000 miles. Hopefully I didn't do any damage!
 
  #5  
Old 03-21-2014, 10:42 PM
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Perth Ontario Canada
Posts: 11,058
Received 2,263 Likes on 1,845 Posts
Default

Many years of experience in the aviation engine business demonstrated to me that the results of a single oil sample are almost meaningless. Too many false positives to be of much help.

Kinda like deciding on a heart transplant based on one blood pressure test.
 
  #6  
Old 03-22-2014, 05:15 AM
u102768's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,941
Received 1,490 Likes on 908 Posts
Default

Thanks for the info but you don't mention when the oil was last changed as I would assume time is a factor as well. According to the service schedule oil should be changed every 12 months or 10k miles, which ever comes first.

If the car is 7 years old and done 35k it is averaging 5k miles a year so unless you have started doing a higher mileage it should be due to be changed anyway.

I believe that short trips also aren't kind to engine oil. My XKR is a daily driver but only managed just over 3K miles last year because my commute to work is only 4 miles each way. Because of that I wouldn't dream of not changing the oil every 12 months.
 
  #7  
Old 03-22-2014, 07:12 AM
jagtoes's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: NY
Posts: 5,209
Received 1,839 Likes on 1,233 Posts
Default

Back in the 60's and 70's I would change oil every 3000 miles. As the quality of oil has improved I have evolved to every 5000 miles or 1 year. I still haven't gone past that strategy and even on my wife's 89 Volvo with 340,000 miles I still do a change at 5000. Needless to say with today's synthetic oils it could be feasible to go to 10,000 miles I am not there yet. Unless you are doing a 50 mile commute I feel there are to many variables that will contaminate the oil limiting it's effectiveness. So at this point the cst is cheap for a better feel of protection.
 
The following 3 users liked this post by jagtoes:
pitifulpluto (03-22-2014), plums (03-22-2014), richzak (03-22-2014)
  #8  
Old 03-22-2014, 07:57 AM
pitifulpluto's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 377
Received 59 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

I completelt agree! Given the reasonable cost for oil, why not change it?

Wal-mart is selling a 5 quart jug of mobil 1 synthetic for only $25! + filter $10

I can comfortable live my life knowing I have probably wasted a lot of money replacing good oil but none of my cars suffer internal damage as a result.

So I'd rather waste oil than spend $1000+ rebuilding my engine.
 
The following users liked this post:
plums (03-22-2014)
  #9  
Old 03-22-2014, 08:17 AM
mosesbotbol's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Boston, USA
Posts: 6,278
Received 1,202 Likes on 933 Posts
Default

I keep forgetting to buy better priced oil before my oil changes. I let the mechanic buy the oil across the street at Napa and I get a sticker shock each time I pay the bill.

One factor that should be of concern is the oil filter. How well does it actually filter above 5 or 7K miles?

I'd change the oil more often if the car was on the lift something else. I expect brake work this season, so perhaps an interim oil change too?

Our Range Rover (BMW V8), the oil gets dirty faster than the Jag; what does this mean?
 
  #10  
Old 03-22-2014, 11:17 AM
plums's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: on-the-edge
Posts: 9,733
Received 2,181 Likes on 1,621 Posts
Default

changing oil "too early" will not harm your engine.

changing oil "too late"? dig deep, the damage has been done and it is irreversible without expensive surgery.

there is a "reasonable" gap between too early and too late.
 
  #11  
Old 03-22-2014, 03:14 PM
moar's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: UK
Posts: 55
Received 23 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Rubbish. Full synth can last perfectly well for 10k.

They just said that to make you feel like you got good value out of using their service.
 
  #12  
Old 03-22-2014, 06:14 PM
RedRider48's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Severna Park, MD
Posts: 1,519
Received 360 Likes on 254 Posts
Default

Also, shorter trips, has a detrimental impact, as well. Change more often than recommended intervals.

Happy Trails......
 
  #13  
Old 03-23-2014, 01:52 AM
plums's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: on-the-edge
Posts: 9,733
Received 2,181 Likes on 1,621 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by moar
Rubbish. Full synth can last perfectly well for 10k.

They just said that to make you feel like you got good value out of using their service.
Not so.

There are plenty of scanned Blackstone UOA's on bobistheoilguy where the conclusion has been "TBN good, try running for an additional XXXX miles this time".

Your accusation that Blackstone deliberately engages in the devious practice of fudging the TBN number is a serious accusation.

Just doesn't meet the smell test.

As the most popular testing service for consumer users, they have much to lose and little
to gain from such a practice.
 
  #14  
Old 03-23-2014, 08:10 AM
mosesbotbol's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Boston, USA
Posts: 6,278
Received 1,202 Likes on 933 Posts
Default

Ideally, the engine oil should be changed with formula based on engine hours, start-stops, and miles traveled. How that is calculated, is beyond my math skills.
 
  #15  
Old 03-23-2014, 09:51 AM
jagtoes's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: NY
Posts: 5,209
Received 1,839 Likes on 1,233 Posts
Default

Usually when buying a used car I go through a oil change process to see if I can clean up the engine. I do not use these various engine cleaners on the market. What I do is drain and refill the oil. Run the car for 500 miles and do it again . Run for a 1000 miles and change it again. The detergents in the oil usually will clean up the engine by then but I run it to 3000 miles and do another change. I found that by this time I am go to go for my usual 5000 mile changes. Also at the 5000 mile change I have seen no visual change in the color of the oil. Mind you this was expensive to do back when I bought my XJS which took 12 quarts but I found the results worked for me. By the way so far I've only used dino oil even in our new cars.
 
  #16  
Old 03-23-2014, 03:27 PM
mosesbotbol's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Boston, USA
Posts: 6,278
Received 1,202 Likes on 933 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jagtoes
Usually when buying a used car I go through a oil change process to see if I can clean up the engine.
Same filter through the whole process?
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MrWhite
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
19
06-14-2022 07:49 PM
3jagfamily
New Member Area - Intro a MUST
11
10-01-2015 01:49 AM
42Ajd
PRIVATE For Sale / Trade or Buy Classifieds
0
09-26-2015 07:04 PM
Woznaldo
XJ6 & XJ12 Series I, II & III
9
09-26-2015 11:02 AM
ahunt4
XJ6 & XJ12 Series I, II & III
4
09-25-2015 03:43 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Blackstone oil analysis 07 XK



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:30 AM.