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Old 12-08-2013, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LstFord
I have a lot of dust with the 15 inch alcon brakes. Is it a good idea to change the type of pads. I don't race but love the brakes.
This is what I've found regarding non-OEM replacement pad options for my '08 Portfolio with the Alcon brake package.

Carbotech (1521) front CT1355 $173, rear CT1356 $151

Porterfield (R4s) front AP1355 $190, rear AP1356 $120

e-mail response from EBC:

"For your vehicle we make our Yellowstuff street/track pad."
Front- DP42111R Rear- DP42112R

e-mail response from Akebono:

"Sorry to say to do not make the pads for the front and rear Jag with the Alcon brake package. The volume is just too low unfortunately."

e-mail response from Hawk Performance:

"Thank you for your interest in our products. Unfortunately we do not offer any pads for your vehicle. Please keep us in mind for any of your other vehicles."
 
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Old 12-08-2013, 04:34 PM
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Yes, particularly if the Akebonos are ceramic and the OEM aren't. The dealer might use any excuse he can find to shift blame to others for not using authorized, compatible parts. Just my opinion.
While I agree dealers will try any avenue to worm out of their contractual obligation I wonder how far they could go using none OEM pads as an excuse for other failures. For those like myself with older cars and extended warranties rotors and pads are consumables so if my Akebono pads warp my rotors then I fully expect it to be on my nickel. But if I have a drive shaft fail or the ABS system fail and they try to use non OEM pads as a contributory factor then my legal training in contract law will be mobilized.

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Old 12-08-2013, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AirCav
"For your vehicle we make our Yellowstuff street/track pad. Front- DP42111R Rear- DP42112R
Thanks for the post...these EBC numbers confirm my part numbers from the EBC Catalog on-line.
 
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:03 PM
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While I agree dealers will try any avenue to worm out of their contractual obligation I wonder how far they could go using none OEM pads as an excuse for other failures.
My indy Jag mechanic finds only using OEM parts as being very important on Jag's; he works on more variety and quantity of Jag than almost anyone in New England. That being said, he was quite pleased with how well the Akebono's worked with OEM rotors (on my VDP). No squeaks or any kind of issues. For sure will be what I go with when it's time to brakes all around.
 
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:01 AM
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Thats a pic for the rears which have been around for some time. Here's the fronts. Made just 7 weeks ago.

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After calling Advance auto parts for the front pads for a 2010 XK, they are telling me the Akebono Euro 938 is the part number. The rears are correct at being Euro 1095. How do I confirm the correct Akebono part number? Contact Akebono? I've left a message on their voice mail and am waiting for a reply.
 

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Old 12-11-2013, 11:43 AM
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Yes, particularly if the Akebonos are ceramic and the OEM aren't. The dealer might use any excuse he can find to shift blame to others for not using authorized, compatible parts. Just my opinion.
My Jaguar service writer mentioned it was ok with Jaguar to install ceramic pads. Jaguar will install them for me.
 
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:00 PM
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After calling Advance auto parts for the front pads for a 2010 XK, they are telling me the Akebono Euro 938 is the part number. The rears are correct at being Euro 1095. How do I confirm the correct Akebono part number? Contact Akebono? I've left a message on their voice mail and am waiting for a reply.
After speaking with an Akebono rep, I'm glad I didn't run out to pick up Akebono pads for my 2010 XK. Akebono DOES NOT make front ceramic pads for a 2010 XK. Yes, they do make them for the 2007-2009 fronts and rears. Euro 1241 fronts, Euro 1095 rears. Now I'm stuck with just getting the Euro 1095 for my rears and keep the factory fronts (Black front rims and clean rear rims) I see Centric is another company that shows front and rear ceramics, but I don't know much about them.
 
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Old 12-11-2013, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bocatrip
After speaking with an Akebono rep, I'm glad I didn't run out to pick up Akebono pads for my 2010 XK. Akebono DOES NOT make front ceramic pads for a 2010 XK. Yes, they do make them for the 2007-2009 fronts and rears. Euro 1241 fronts, Euro 1095 rears. Now I'm stuck with just getting the Euro 1095 for my rears and keep the factory fronts (Black front rims and clean rear rims) I see Centric is another company that shows front and rear ceramics, but I don't know much about them.
Boca:

Have you seen these. Just looked these up for you.

They say it's a match.

Parts Geek, LLC
50 South Maple Ave Suite 100
Marlton, NJ 08053
telephone: +1 800 541 9352
 
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:11 PM
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Boca:

Have you seen these. Just looked these up for you.

They say it's a match.

Parts Geek, LLC
50 South Maple Ave Suite 100
Marlton, NJ 08053
telephone: +1 800 541 9352
The long story is.......The Akebono Rep told me the following: There is an application # 1472 which is Akebono's design number for the actual size and shape of every pad. This application number is the match for the 2010 XK and some early XFs etc. However, there are not enough cars in circulation for Akebono to produce the front pad for the 2010 which is a different pad than 2006-2009. What you are seeing he told me is the incorrect part number which Advance Auto Parts, Pep Boys, NAPA, and a number of other outlets have in their catalogue but it is incorrect and must be updated He told me it might take a few months before the retailers get it corrected. He even told me the dimensions for Euro 938 are way off and will not work. The 2006-2009 Euro 1241 is also a different size, might fit, but highly advised against it do to it being part of the braking system. Bottom line is, I'm going with the Akebono Rep. Even tirerack does not have a part number for the front Akebonos for a 2010. If you call them, they don't have a part number. I'm planning on replacing the rears with Euro 1095 and hope something comes up in the future. I'm afraid of another manufacturer at this time. Sorry for the long explaination, but I'm frustrated and wanted those pads.
 
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The long story is.......The Akebono Rep told me the following: There is an application # 1472 which is Akebono's design number for the actual size and shape of every pad. This application number is the match for the 2010 XK and some early XFs etc. However, there are not enough cars in circulation for Akebono to produce the front pad for the 2010 which is a different pad than 2006-2009. What you are seeing he told me is the incorrect part number which Advance Auto Parts, Pep Boys, NAPA, and a number of other outlets have in their catalogue but it is incorrect and must be updated He told me it might take a few months before the retailers get it corrected. He even told me the dimensions for Euro 938 are way off and will not work. The 2006-2009 Euro 1241 is also a different size, might fit, but highly advised against it do to it being part of the braking system. Bottom line is, I'm going with the Akebono Rep. Even tirerack does not have a part number for the front Akebonos for a 2010. If you call them, they don't have a part number. I'm planning on replacing the rears with Euro 1095 and hope something comes up in the future. I'm afraid of another manufacturer at this time. Sorry for the long explaination, but I'm frustrated and wanted those pads.
Frustration? Part of owning a Jaguar is what I am finding out. Even harder for the 2009 Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition convertible that I own when only 200 cars were imported into the USA.

The learning curve is steep on these cars. Big problem is Jaguar never produced these cars in large numbers, so aftermarket parts manufacturers don't want to make parts that won't sell or have to keep in an inventory for years.

The forums here have curbed some frustration and a vast amount information from other members have helped tremendously.

Sometimes the frustration is so heavy, I wish I would have never bought the darn brand.
 
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Old 12-11-2013, 06:34 PM
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I don't recommend going with Centric. I tried them and found the rears caused a drone braking from 60mph as if they were worn down. To be fair the fronts were fine but once I put the Akebonos on the rear I had to also put them on the front.

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Old 12-11-2013, 09:32 PM
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I don't recommend going with Centric. I tried them and found the rears caused a drone braking from 60mph as if they were worn down. To be fair the fronts were fine but once I put the Akebonos on the rear I had to also put them on the front.

Steve
Thanks for the info Sjtyrer..... How did you find the Centric front pads with regards to dust,stopping, and noise compared to the Akebonos? How many miles did you put on the Centrics compared to the Akebonos? I will not be getting Centrics for the rears but I will be putting the Akebonos on the rears. I may not have a choice if there is nothing else available for the fronts. The problem again is that with cars that are not mass produced, parts are harder to find. That's the price for exclusivity!
 

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