car wash question
#21
I assume the key is the deionizer which all don't have or won't work with their water. For those out there with well water with high mineral content and salt water conditioning system it's not practical. Even going to the self service bay and just spraying with spot free spray works pretty good.
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#23
I assume the key is the deionizer which all don't have or won't work with their water. For those out there with well water with high mineral content and salt water conditioning system it's not practical. Even going to the self service bay and just spraying with spot free spray works pretty good.
I have city water that is fairly hard and leaves horrendous spots, especially in the Florida heat. The key is to wash in sections. I wash the rear deck, quarter panels, and back. Then rinse, afterwards use an Absorber to remove the bulk of the water. Last, I dry and buff the entire section with my medium size microfiber towel. Don't necessarily need the Absorber if you have plenty of drying towels.
Then I wash and dry the front clip the same way. Third and Fourth are the doors using reduced spray so that I don't wet the areas already cleaned and dried. If I end up with some overspray of water I just give it a buff with the microfiber.
During all of this I keep my Adam's Detailer spray handy, if I do have an area that dries quicker than I get to it and end up with spots I spritz, buff, and voila it is clean of mineral deposit.
#24
Nobody notice the OP posted the question at 10:57 on Jan 17th 2017, didn't wait for an answer and hasn't been back since?
Graham
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Sean W (01-21-2017)
#25
OK the ceramic coating wasn't included in that price . It was just the other work that was done including swirl removal and convertible top finishing. It also included Lexol clean and condition and vacuum and windows. Total cost me $550. Only did it once.
#26
I am sure the XKR turned out great, but would not be fully paint protected.
As for the top, there have been numerous threads about convertible top care and protection. A bottle of 303 Aerospace Fabric Guard will cost $16.00 and it will take about 1 hr as a DIY project to keep the convertible top in remarkable condition.
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#27
If the OP is anything like me, he's reading the replies and researching.
#28
You could have saved $500 by doing this work yourself. However, if you have deep pockets and no time on your hands, or just don't want to DIY, then any price you paid is ok.
I am sure the XKR turned out great, but would not be fully paint protected.
As for the top, there have been numerous threads about convertible top care and protection. A bottle of 303 Aerospace Fabric Guard will cost $16.00 and it will take about 1 hr as a DIY project to keep the convertible top in remarkable condition.
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I am sure the XKR turned out great, but would not be fully paint protected.
As for the top, there have been numerous threads about convertible top care and protection. A bottle of 303 Aerospace Fabric Guard will cost $16.00 and it will take about 1 hr as a DIY project to keep the convertible top in remarkable condition.
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#29
If you're wary of going through an automated car wash, one option that's great during the warmer months is the fundraiser car washes that local high school clubs do. You get a nice hand wash & dry for whatever you're willing to donate, and if you have a "cool" car, the kids will usually give it a little extra TLC. Win win all around, and there's seemingly a couple going on every week around where I am.
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richzak (01-21-2017)
#30
So we continue to discuss regardless of whether the OP cares, because we all care too much.
#31
If you're wary of going through an automated car wash, one option that's great during the warmer months is the fundraiser car washes that local high school clubs do. You get a nice hand wash & dry for whatever you're willing to donate, and if you have a "cool" car, the kids will usually give it a little extra TLC. Win win all around, and there's seemingly a couple going on every week around where I am.
#32
If you're wary of going through an automated car wash, one option that's great during the warmer months is the fundraiser car washes that local high school clubs do. You get a nice hand wash & dry for whatever you're willing to donate, and if you have a "cool" car, the kids will usually give it a little extra TLC. Win win all around, and there's seemingly a couple going on every week around where I am.
I use the one bucket wash method whereby you have 10 quality, small 300g microfiber cloths that are used on one panel of the car only. I use the cloth, folding for fresh surface while cleaning an area, then discard. The re-use of a wash towel is sacrilege!
The two bucket method is now old school, instead of rinsing in a second bucket don't rinse the cloth at all, toss in the pile and grab a fresh cloth. Hence one bucket. I guarantee the car wash kids don't use any of these methods or clean wash rags.
I agree, they are the future, but they are not in my car wash future. Gotta go, ordering some girl scout cookies from my buddies daughter.
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richzak (01-21-2017)
#33
I assume the key is the deionizer which all don't have or won't work with their water. For those out there with well water with high mineral content and salt water conditioning system it's not practical. Even going to the self service bay and just spraying with spot free spray works pretty good.
#34
For the 'don't have' contingent as opposed to the hard water folks I have this thought: We spend $30-100K on a Jaguar, and are often willing to spend multiple thousands on upgrades, but won't spend $400 on a deionizer? A deionizer seems like a luxury until the first time you wash your dark colored car in the sun and don't get water spots and don't have to spend 20 minutes hand drying! That's my opinion anyway.
Excuses like getting water spots when hand washing due to hard water, simply shows the lack of knowledge of exterior washing and detail products available. There have been numerous advancements in detailing products that prevent water spots. There is no longer a need to use a wax product. Advancements in washing techniques, make maintaining the exterior of a vehicle so easy.
The idea that anyone has other things to do other than maintaining their vehicle is also an excuse. If a vehicle is properly detailed with new state of the art products like polymer paint sealants or ceramic paint coatings the future maintenance is quite easy. A future car wash can only take 20-30 minutes of anyone's time.
I agree it makes no sense to make modifications to a vehicle like new wheels, exhausts, etc. if the owner is not willing to maintain the vehicle's exterior appearance.
There is always extra time in anyone's day or evening or weekend. Maintaining your beautiful Jaguar should be a high priority. You own a premium vehicle, you paid a lot of money for it, keep it looking great.
The Jaguar XK/XKR whether coupe or convertible are marvels of design and beauty.
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#35
Relax guys, it is just a car. If someone doesn't want to dote all over it, rub it, touch it, admire, kiss it, wash it, sleep in it, hug it, does it really offend you both so much? Holy cow, if they want to run it into the ground it is their prerogative, premium this, $30k-$100k that, what does it matter?
For me it takes an extra 5 minutes to dry and I have no issue with my hard water since I wash and dry in sections. The only time you get spotting is when you allow the water to dry. Why would I spend $400 for a unit that I deem unnecessary?
For everyone on here who doesn't feel like handwashing and decide to run it though a machine wash I applaud you for being a rebel.
For me it takes an extra 5 minutes to dry and I have no issue with my hard water since I wash and dry in sections. The only time you get spotting is when you allow the water to dry. Why would I spend $400 for a unit that I deem unnecessary?
For everyone on here who doesn't feel like handwashing and decide to run it though a machine wash I applaud you for being a rebel.
#36
For the last 50+ years, my preference has always been to hand wash my cars on my drive. I first remove all rings, bracelets, watch and belt. I have my favorite music playing, a fan blowing on me and a cold beverage nearby.
I use a good quality car wash product, a bucket with a grid near the bottom and a boar's hair wash brush. After a thorough rinsing, I use a California Jelly Blade to remove 98% of the water and finish drying with a clean microfiber cloth. I then use a Data-Vac electric hand-held blower to get any water out of crevices, door jambs, etc.
I then wash the wheels with a wheel brush, the tires with a tire brush and use my Data-Vac blower to blow all water off of the wheels and tires - after which I apply a top dressing to the tires.
I then vacuum and clean the trunk, the interior and then clean all of the glass.
I never use a ‘drive-thru’ commercial car wash, but if I'm in a hurry, I will use the ‘spray-it-yourself’ type car wash that takes quarters - but I don’t use their ‘foaming brush’.
This is just how I do it. If you want to use the drive-thru car wash, the high end ceramic coating route or anything in between, it's your car so it's your call. Do whatever works for you.
I do it this way because I like doing it. I find it enjoyable and therapeutic. I like bonding with my cars and I like the self-satisfaction it gives me when I look at the end result. That's why I do it 3 times a week!
I use a good quality car wash product, a bucket with a grid near the bottom and a boar's hair wash brush. After a thorough rinsing, I use a California Jelly Blade to remove 98% of the water and finish drying with a clean microfiber cloth. I then use a Data-Vac electric hand-held blower to get any water out of crevices, door jambs, etc.
I then wash the wheels with a wheel brush, the tires with a tire brush and use my Data-Vac blower to blow all water off of the wheels and tires - after which I apply a top dressing to the tires.
I then vacuum and clean the trunk, the interior and then clean all of the glass.
I never use a ‘drive-thru’ commercial car wash, but if I'm in a hurry, I will use the ‘spray-it-yourself’ type car wash that takes quarters - but I don’t use their ‘foaming brush’.
This is just how I do it. If you want to use the drive-thru car wash, the high end ceramic coating route or anything in between, it's your car so it's your call. Do whatever works for you.
I do it this way because I like doing it. I find it enjoyable and therapeutic. I like bonding with my cars and I like the self-satisfaction it gives me when I look at the end result. That's why I do it 3 times a week!
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#37
For the last 50+ years, my preference has always been to hand wash my cars on my drive. I first remove all rings, bracelets, watch and belt. I have my favorite music playing, a fan blowing on me and a cold beverage nearby.
I use a good quality car wash product, a bucket with a grid near the bottom and a boar's hair wash brush. After a thorough rinsing, I use a California Jelly Blade to remove 98% of the water and finish drying with a clean microfiber cloth. I then use a Data-Vac electric hand-held blower to get any water out of crevices, door jambs, etc.
I then wash the wheels with a wheel brush, the tires with a tire brush and use my Data-Vac blower to blow all water off of the wheels and tires - after which I apply a top dressing to the tires.
I then vacuum and clean the trunk, the interior and then clean all of the glass.
I never use a ‘drive-thru’ commercial car wash, but if I'm in a hurry, I will use the ‘spray-it-yourself’ type car wash that takes quarters - but I don’t use their ‘foaming brush’.
This is just how I do it. If you want to use the drive-thru car wash, the high end ceramic coating route or anything in between, it's your car so it's your call. Do whatever works for you.
I do it this way because I like doing it. I find it enjoyable and therapeutic. I like bonding with my cars and I like the self-satisfaction it gives me when I look at the end result. That's why I do it 3 times a week!
I use a good quality car wash product, a bucket with a grid near the bottom and a boar's hair wash brush. After a thorough rinsing, I use a California Jelly Blade to remove 98% of the water and finish drying with a clean microfiber cloth. I then use a Data-Vac electric hand-held blower to get any water out of crevices, door jambs, etc.
I then wash the wheels with a wheel brush, the tires with a tire brush and use my Data-Vac blower to blow all water off of the wheels and tires - after which I apply a top dressing to the tires.
I then vacuum and clean the trunk, the interior and then clean all of the glass.
I never use a ‘drive-thru’ commercial car wash, but if I'm in a hurry, I will use the ‘spray-it-yourself’ type car wash that takes quarters - but I don’t use their ‘foaming brush’.
This is just how I do it. If you want to use the drive-thru car wash, the high end ceramic coating route or anything in between, it's your car so it's your call. Do whatever works for you.
I do it this way because I like doing it. I find it enjoyable and therapeutic. I like bonding with my cars and I like the self-satisfaction it gives me when I look at the end result. That's why I do it 3 times a week!
#38
For the last 50+ years, my preference has always been to hand wash my cars on my drive. I first remove all rings, bracelets, watch and belt. I have my favorite music playing, a fan blowing on me and a cold beverage nearby.
After a thorough rinsing, I use a California Jelly Blade to remove 98% of the water and finish drying with a clean microfiber cloth.
I then wash the wheels with a wheel brush, the tires with a tire brush and use my Data-Vac blower to blow all water off of the wheels and tires - after which I apply a top dressing to the tires.
After a thorough rinsing, I use a California Jelly Blade to remove 98% of the water and finish drying with a clean microfiber cloth.
I then wash the wheels with a wheel brush, the tires with a tire brush and use my Data-Vac blower to blow all water off of the wheels and tires - after which I apply a top dressing to the tires.
Snide 72,
I'm pretty much with you with a couple of exceptions. I always wash and rinse the wheels, tires and wheel wells first as that is generally the dirtiest part of the car. I don't want the rinse spray on an already clean car.
Secondly, I'm not a fan dragging anything solid across the paint. After washing and rinsing the car, I take off the spray nozzle and rinse the car with just the hose. This takes off about 80% of the standing water. I then use a leaf blower to dry the car the rest of the way.
For those of you that dry your car with a towel, here's a tip. When you wash the car go in one direction only-horizontally or vertically. Then when you dry, go in the opposite direction only. That way if you see any scratching or marring you'll know which procedure is causing it.
Happy detailing!
Best,
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#40
Snide72,
I'm with you. I probably wash my car three times a week, not because it looks so dirty (nothing makes the liquid silver look dirty unlike my Carnival Red XKR, where it looks dirty after a day), but because I find it one of the most relaxing things I can do. It's just plain soothing. And by the way, while I spray the wheels and tires while initially wetting the car, I wash and dry the car completely afterwhich I do the glass and finally, the wheels and tires. Sometimes I vacuum and do the interior before, sometimes afterwards, depends on my mood. I have such a busy, tension filled schedule, that washing my car is a little oasis of time where I am stress free. It's more about me than the cleanliness of the car.
I'm with you. I probably wash my car three times a week, not because it looks so dirty (nothing makes the liquid silver look dirty unlike my Carnival Red XKR, where it looks dirty after a day), but because I find it one of the most relaxing things I can do. It's just plain soothing. And by the way, while I spray the wheels and tires while initially wetting the car, I wash and dry the car completely afterwhich I do the glass and finally, the wheels and tires. Sometimes I vacuum and do the interior before, sometimes afterwards, depends on my mood. I have such a busy, tension filled schedule, that washing my car is a little oasis of time where I am stress free. It's more about me than the cleanliness of the car.
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