CATS, Pedestrian system fault
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CATS, Pedestrian system fault
Hi guys,
i have some issues with my Jag XK (2006 X150, 4,2). Milage is 106 000km (66000 miles). Car is completely stock. Warings on my dashboard are CATS fault and Pedestrian system. So i used OBD-diagnostic tool to check faults. I found anything about this particular problem.
Codes for pedestrian and cats systems are these:
Cats
C110E - Left Rear damper solenoid circuit - short to ground, open circuit
C110E - Left Rear damper - Out of Range
Q: It is on that left damper harness certain weak spot to check?
Pedestrian
B1002 - Left hood latch deployment control circuit - circuit resistance above threshold
B1006 - Pedestrian impact sensor - funtion fault
Otherwise car runs fine, i dont feel that the cats doesnt work. I driving my car daily with speeds over 130mph and suspention works well. Strange...
PS: I heard that US cars doesnt have the Pedestrian System, it is possible to disable that system on EU specs car? I think that is usless to have it and i dont have problem with legality in my country.
Thank you for ideas. Sorry for my English, it is not my native language.
i have some issues with my Jag XK (2006 X150, 4,2). Milage is 106 000km (66000 miles). Car is completely stock. Warings on my dashboard are CATS fault and Pedestrian system. So i used OBD-diagnostic tool to check faults. I found anything about this particular problem.
Codes for pedestrian and cats systems are these:
Cats
C110E - Left Rear damper solenoid circuit - short to ground, open circuit
C110E - Left Rear damper - Out of Range
Q: It is on that left damper harness certain weak spot to check?
Pedestrian
B1002 - Left hood latch deployment control circuit - circuit resistance above threshold
B1006 - Pedestrian impact sensor - funtion fault
Otherwise car runs fine, i dont feel that the cats doesnt work. I driving my car daily with speeds over 130mph and suspention works well. Strange...
PS: I heard that US cars doesnt have the Pedestrian System, it is possible to disable that system on EU specs car? I think that is usless to have it and i dont have problem with legality in my country.
Thank you for ideas. Sorry for my English, it is not my native language.
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You may want to visually inspect the wiring and insulation at the damper harness, and make sure the connection is good. Also, your dampers may be riding lower now than when they were new. I just replaced mine ('07 MY) and it did seem to raise the rear slightly. My dampers didn't look to be leaking, or worn out otherwise, but since I was in there replacing soft parts, I did them also.
Additionally, it may be time for a visual inspection of your bushings and boots if you have not done that.
Additionally, it may be time for a visual inspection of your bushings and boots if you have not done that.
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Hello
I had hood deployment errors - mine were there result of other issues affecting the electrics. The fastest way to confirm this is to swap the actuators around. I did and it made no difference hence I knew it was a fault in the loom - also the resistance in my actuators was showing really low.
The Pedestrian Sensors behind the bonnet are known to fail - this is a common fault. There is an upgraded version available but you need to remove bumper and drill a hole to accommodate the locating boss to make the sensor properly vertical (some don't, but apparently they should be properly vertical). If your sensors are blue they are definitely scrap. The new ones are grey by the way.
Are you handy at working on cars? If not then do you have a good independent.
Order new sensors from SNG Barrett if yours are blue then see what happens, that would be my first port of call personally.
I had hood deployment errors - mine were there result of other issues affecting the electrics. The fastest way to confirm this is to swap the actuators around. I did and it made no difference hence I knew it was a fault in the loom - also the resistance in my actuators was showing really low.
The Pedestrian Sensors behind the bonnet are known to fail - this is a common fault. There is an upgraded version available but you need to remove bumper and drill a hole to accommodate the locating boss to make the sensor properly vertical (some don't, but apparently they should be properly vertical). If your sensors are blue they are definitely scrap. The new ones are grey by the way.
Are you handy at working on cars? If not then do you have a good independent.
Order new sensors from SNG Barrett if yours are blue then see what happens, that would be my first port of call personally.
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Hello
I had hood deployment errors - mine were there result of other issues affecting the electrics. The fastest way to confirm this is to swap the actuators around. I did and it made no difference hence I knew it was a fault in the loom - also the resistance in my actuators was showing really low.
The Pedestrian Sensors behind the bonnet are known to fail - this is a common fault. There is an upgraded version available but you need to remove bumper and drill a hole to accommodate the locating boss to make the sensor properly vertical (some don't, but apparently they should be properly vertical). If your sensors are blue they are definitely scrap. The new ones are grey by the way.
Are you handy at working on cars? If not then do you have a good independent.
Order new sensors from SNG Barrett if yours are blue then see what happens, that would be my first port of call personally.
I had hood deployment errors - mine were there result of other issues affecting the electrics. The fastest way to confirm this is to swap the actuators around. I did and it made no difference hence I knew it was a fault in the loom - also the resistance in my actuators was showing really low.
The Pedestrian Sensors behind the bonnet are known to fail - this is a common fault. There is an upgraded version available but you need to remove bumper and drill a hole to accommodate the locating boss to make the sensor properly vertical (some don't, but apparently they should be properly vertical). If your sensors are blue they are definitely scrap. The new ones are grey by the way.
Are you handy at working on cars? If not then do you have a good independent.
Order new sensors from SNG Barrett if yours are blue then see what happens, that would be my first port of call personally.
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To remove bumper do the above, then remove the piece of foam (be careful of the big optic pedestrian sensor on the bumper, don't damage it) then just some 4 x 13mm (I think) bolts on each side - very simple
https://www.jaguarforum.com/showthread.php?t=124671
If that doesn't clear your fault (and I expect it will, if not you have just prevented a future fault occurring) then swap the actuators. You MUST DISONNECT THE BATTERY - because you want to move the air bag to get access to the airbag cradle, to lift it to get to the actuator electrics. There are 4 electric pieces, 2 on each side. One is connected to the airbag, one is to the bonnet opener effectively - do all this WHILE THE NOSE IS OFF - because if like me you fail to connect it properly the bolts at the front will be accessible for the bonnet for you to do desperate things with (hangs head in shame at own stupidity!). Swap the airbags round to try one thing (this fixed the problem for an independent on one of his customers cars, just a bad connection) and swap the bonnet actuators around (the whole thing comes off, including the metal trigger - put it in a vice to undo the 2 torx bolts)
I mention an Icarsoft Tool - the data read out really helped me realise I had a sort of shorting going on - in my case it was caused by a smear of vaseline in each block connector - bad idea on these it seems
Last edited by wsn03; 11-17-2020 at 07:47 AM.
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What I have learned however is that the diagnosis is usually just a starting point - even with the full code my error was not what 3 different diagnosis machines thought it was.
What did your B1002-11 turn out to be, and what was the fix?
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I used profesional OEM Diagnosis system from Bosch from my dads workshop, it is a machine for 5k$ with license. I know what you mean. Fault code is like this ''B1002'' - But it is destription on that what is precisely wrong, its just doest show another numbers. I just translated what is in description from my language. So if i looked on OEM Jag fault codes full would be B10068F, B10021B, C110E-14, C110E-18.
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Thanks guys for answers!
Today i have some time, so i checked the sensors. They are blue, so probably that would be a problem. Do you have a recomendation for any good E-shop with Jag parts (EU or US)? In my country is only source local Dealer with overprices parts. Thanks
Hello
I had hood deployment errors - mine were there result of other issues affecting the electrics. The fastest way to confirm this is to swap the actuators around. I did and it made no difference hence I knew it was a fault in the loom - also the resistance in my actuators was showing really low.
The Pedestrian Sensors behind the bonnet are known to fail - this is a common fault. There is an upgraded version available but you need to remove bumper and drill a hole to accommodate the locating boss to make the sensor properly vertical (some don't, but apparently they should be properly vertical). If your sensors are blue they are definitely scrap. The new ones are grey by the way.
Are you handy at working on cars? If not then do you have a good independent.
Order new sensors from SNG Barrett if yours are blue then see what happens, that would be my first port of call personally.
I had hood deployment errors - mine were there result of other issues affecting the electrics. The fastest way to confirm this is to swap the actuators around. I did and it made no difference hence I knew it was a fault in the loom - also the resistance in my actuators was showing really low.
The Pedestrian Sensors behind the bonnet are known to fail - this is a common fault. There is an upgraded version available but you need to remove bumper and drill a hole to accommodate the locating boss to make the sensor properly vertical (some don't, but apparently they should be properly vertical). If your sensors are blue they are definitely scrap. The new ones are grey by the way.
Are you handy at working on cars? If not then do you have a good independent.
Order new sensors from SNG Barrett if yours are blue then see what happens, that would be my first port of call personally.
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Thanks guys for answers!
Today i have some time, so i checked the sensors. They are blue, so probably that would be a problem. Do you have a recomendation for any good E-shop with Jag parts (EU or US)? In my country is only source local Dealer with overprices parts. Thanks
Today i have some time, so i checked the sensors. They are blue, so probably that would be a problem. Do you have a recomendation for any good E-shop with Jag parts (EU or US)? In my country is only source local Dealer with overprices parts. Thanks