XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014

Comments?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #21  
Old 12-24-2023, 06:56 AM
J.J.'s Avatar
Member
Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: EU
Posts: 40
Received 37 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Inflated dealer rates, outrageous spare part prices and stingy insurance companies make any little fender bender a potential write off.
Be careful and stay safe!
 
  #22  
Old 12-24-2023, 07:20 AM
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta suburbs
Posts: 9,267
Received 6,285 Likes on 3,449 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tiepolo
So you all think the seller claiming the damages are purely cosmetics is purposely lying?
I thought such lies could ruin someone in the USA and that a seller could be sued for millions if he lies on the product...
I really don't get how you work...
Sorry, @Tiepolo , you are naive. The USA is full of con men dressed as used car dealers. They are wolves in sheep's clothing. and they prey on fools who don't realize that they're about to be taken. This Seller is a member of the Wolfpack, and he's hungry and smells blood. And, yes, he is lying because he knows that he can get away with it.

Just because you can sue someone doesn't mean that you will collect anything. What makes you think that an unscrupulous used car dealer has any assets? If he gets sued, he files for bankruptcy. You may get a judgment, but you'll never collect a penny. The taxman always gets first dibs, and usually there's nothing left after that.

It's not a fair fight. The Seller is a professional and knows every trick in the book. The buyer is a gullible amateur and believes everything the Seller tells him. He's eager to buy this beauty because he thinks it's a bargain and doesn't want to lose it. So he signs the contract without reading or understanding the small print - the disclaimers of all warranties, express or implied, including the warranty of fitness for a particular purpose together with a statement that the written document is the entire contract notwithstanding anything that the Seller may have said or promised. That contract is the unscrupulous Seller's defense, and you signed it. You bought a car "As-Is, Where-Is".

There's a sucker born every day.

If you swim with the sharks, expect to be eaten.
 
The following users liked this post:
Cee Jay (12-24-2023)
  #23  
Old 12-24-2023, 09:01 AM
Sean W's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 8,380
Received 4,219 Likes on 2,367 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GGG
De hoc dissentio.

Carpe diem is seize the day. Caveat emptor is buyer beware.

Graham
Quae est infernum. My Dad was going to be a priest. He majored in Latin initially. I heard that one a lot....
 
The following 2 users liked this post by Sean W:
GGG (12-24-2023), ralphwg (12-25-2023)
  #24  
Old 12-24-2023, 09:16 AM
slick.one's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2021
Location: New York and Florida
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Great sleuth work CeeJay!
 
  #25  
Old 12-24-2023, 12:13 PM
CA Jag's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Sacramento CA
Posts: 701
Received 202 Likes on 142 Posts
Default

Spend a little more and get a good one. This one isn’t cheap. A deal that starts w a badly written ad usually has more problems down the line. Seller sounds like he’s selling aluminum siding. Based on auction price (good work CJ), car was more than just cosmetic. I’d def pass on this one. Cosmetic only rebuilds (verified w detailed before/after pictures) can be good deals if priced right. Agree w CJ that it’s appropriate only w steel body cars.
 
The following users liked this post:
Cee Jay (12-24-2023)
  #26  
Old 12-25-2023, 02:02 PM
ralphwg's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Los Angeles CA
Posts: 4,930
Received 1,209 Likes on 915 Posts
Default

My mistake, I got them reversed. So much for my Latin. Thanks for the correction.
 
The following users liked this post:
GGG (12-26-2023)
  #27  
Old 12-26-2023, 06:03 AM
Jaunty's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Poole
Posts: 79
Received 28 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ralphwg
Carpe Diem (buyer beware)
You mean "Caveat Emptor".
 
  #28  
Old 12-26-2023, 11:24 AM
carealtor's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 173
Received 80 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

My 2012 Black/Black coupe is still for sale. $22,000.
 
  #29  
Old 12-26-2023, 03:30 PM
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta suburbs
Posts: 9,267
Received 6,285 Likes on 3,449 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by carealtor
My 2012 Black/Black coupe is still for sale. $22,000.
I'm sure that you don't realize that posting a For Sale ad here, in the X150 Forum, is a violation of Forum rules. I suggest that you edit that post to add a link to your For Sale ad in the Forum Marketplace. See:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/n...forums-265964/
 

Last edited by Stuart S; 12-26-2023 at 03:33 PM.
  #30  
Old 12-26-2023, 04:09 PM
rowlands's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Mar 2023
Posts: 32
Received 55 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot barge-pole.


And that's coming from someone who bought an XKR off Carvana.
 
The following users liked this post:
CA Jag (01-03-2024)
  #31  
Old 12-27-2023, 11:04 AM
carealtor's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Rocklin, CA
Posts: 173
Received 80 Likes on 40 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stuart S
I'm sure that you don't realize that posting a For Sale ad here, in the X150 Forum, is a violation of Forum rules. I suggest that you edit that post to add a link to your For Sale ad in the Forum Marketplace. See:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/n...forums-265964/
Yeah, sorry about that. I was feeling really bold in the moment.
 
  #32  
Old 12-27-2023, 11:20 AM
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kaysville, Utah, US
Posts: 10,784
Received 5,360 Likes on 3,174 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stuart S
I'm sure that you don't realize that posting a For Sale ad here, in the X150 Forum, is a violation of Forum rules. I suggest that you edit that post to add a link to your For Sale ad in the Forum Marketplace. See:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/n...forums-265964/
Originally Posted by carealtor
Yeah, sorry about that. I was feeling really bold in the moment.
Eh, I didn't consider that an ad, per se. Just more of a reminder. Ads usually contain more than "I'm selling mine" and are usually their own thread.
 
  #33  
Old 12-27-2023, 11:43 AM
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta suburbs
Posts: 9,267
Received 6,285 Likes on 3,449 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by carealtor
My 2012 Black/Black coupe is still for sale. $22,000.
Originally Posted by Cee Jay
Eh, I didn't consider that an ad, per se. Just more of a reminder. Ads usually contain more than "I'm selling mine" and are usually their own thread.
@Cee Jay , you missed your calling. You should have been a politician!
 
  #34  
Old 12-27-2023, 01:04 PM
Cee Jay's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kaysville, Utah, US
Posts: 10,784
Received 5,360 Likes on 3,174 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Stuart S
@Cee Jay , you missed your calling. You should have been a politician!
HOW DARE YOU SAY SUCH AN INFLAMMATORY THING!
I'm no criminal! You take that back!!!
Besides, I very rarely lie.
 
The following 4 users liked this post by Cee Jay:
CA Jag (01-03-2024), jahummer (01-03-2024), Stuart S (01-03-2024), TBKIII (12-31-2023)
  #35  
Old 12-27-2023, 05:51 PM
panthera999's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 750
Received 594 Likes on 304 Posts
Default

And it appears they carefully stopped driving it at 29,665 miles. Just enough below 30K to make it feel like the 20's. Amazing how that happened!

Unless i saw original docs, such as a carfax ordered from carfax, or better yet service records, supporting the mileage, I'd be suspicious.

Stuart -- does copart list the odo mileage on their auction vehicles?

They had a nice 2014 XK on the lot in fresno. Low mileage (0)



 

Last edited by panthera999; 12-27-2023 at 06:04 PM.
  #36  
Old 12-27-2023, 07:21 PM
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta suburbs
Posts: 9,267
Received 6,285 Likes on 3,449 Posts
Default

Looks like they already started buffing it out.
 
  #37  
Old 01-01-2024, 01:40 PM
kenbowen's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 145
Received 38 Likes on 26 Posts
Default

Salvage title rules and laws in the US are dictated state by state and vary quite a bit. Typically a rebuilt title vehicle will discount it about 30%. The problem with older Jaguars is that many times new parts are not available and if they are a new set of headlights and a front bumper cover will total most XK's these days. Utilizing used parts is certainly a viable option as there aren't many alternatives when it comes to non Jag OEM parts and is the reason why many jag xk's get fixed these days at all. The frames on these cars are aluminum( as are many others in the world) and are held together with epoxy and structural rivets. Both the epoxy and the structural rivets are available everywhere so there is not a whole lot of mystery here to be afraid of. Structural repairs are done all the time and work out just fine. I have bought and rebuilt many salvage title cars with no issues. Of course referring to Jaguar's tech manual for rivet types and epoxy requirements are in order to complete the repair to an original standard. Great way to drive very nice cars for very little money if done correctly!
 
  #38  
Old 01-01-2024, 04:26 PM
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta suburbs
Posts: 9,267
Received 6,285 Likes on 3,449 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kenbowen
... Great way to drive very nice cars for very little money IF done correctly!
... the BIG IF. That works for a competent professional who has the skills, equipment, and experience to do a proper repair and decides to keep and drive it for a few years because he had too much time in the job to make a profit.
 
  #39  
Old 01-01-2024, 05:57 PM
kenbowen's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 145
Received 38 Likes on 26 Posts
Default

. the BIG IF. That works for a competent professional who has the skills, equipment, and experience to do a proper repair and decides to keep and drive it for a few years because he had too much time in the job to make a profit.


Well, being competent is important Stewart but being a professional is certainly not a must. If it were then half of the posts on these Jag boards would fall on deaf ears since everyone would be afraid to turn some wrenches and take away work from the "professional" mechanics. And it does not have much to do with turning a profit or reselling it. My point is that for the small group of hobbyists who have a decent set of skills in the body and mechanical field, they should not be intimidated by doing an epoxy and rivet repair. You certainly have a right to avoid this type of title when looking for your own car but you also should not fear monger those who decide to drive a car with repairs done with used parts.
 
  #40  
Old 01-02-2024, 07:54 AM
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Atlanta suburbs
Posts: 9,267
Received 6,285 Likes on 3,449 Posts
Default

All I'm saying is Buyer Beware. Anyone who buys a rebuilt title vehicle without a proper Pre-Purchase Inspection is getting a pig in a poke. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.
 
The following users liked this post:
CA Jag (01-03-2024)


Quick Reply: Comments?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:15 PM.