Consideirng McLaren 12C
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Consideirng McLaren 12C
Hey Gang,
I have been seriously looking at getting a 12C. Initially I wanted a 6spd only and was looking hard at a 14 LP560-2 which could be the absolute last of the manual Lambo's. Then I drove a 12C and was floored by its performance mixed with refinement.
It is like it is from another planet. The shifts, the ride and the warp speed. Wow. The DCT does feel like a proper manual cause it is. I may slightly miss the 3rd pedal but the rest of the package is beyond good. Also, they were nearly $300k well spec'd and can be had for $170k-$200k. Depreciation will likely slow if not flatten.
I was initially thinking DBS 6spd or Vantage V12 but begin thinking they are still too much like my XKR - long nose sleek GT's (albeit prettier). To the average person they aren't very different.
Anyone else driven a 12C? How would you spend $180k if that much budget for a single car?
1) 12C
2) Gallardo
3) Vantage V12
4) 09 or so DBS and save $60k
5) 991TT
6) 06 Murci
4) Wait for Alpha 4C but I think it won't be 6spd. Not enough power to be only pedals if you ask me...
I have been seriously looking at getting a 12C. Initially I wanted a 6spd only and was looking hard at a 14 LP560-2 which could be the absolute last of the manual Lambo's. Then I drove a 12C and was floored by its performance mixed with refinement.
It is like it is from another planet. The shifts, the ride and the warp speed. Wow. The DCT does feel like a proper manual cause it is. I may slightly miss the 3rd pedal but the rest of the package is beyond good. Also, they were nearly $300k well spec'd and can be had for $170k-$200k. Depreciation will likely slow if not flatten.
I was initially thinking DBS 6spd or Vantage V12 but begin thinking they are still too much like my XKR - long nose sleek GT's (albeit prettier). To the average person they aren't very different.
Anyone else driven a 12C? How would you spend $180k if that much budget for a single car?
1) 12C
2) Gallardo
3) Vantage V12
4) 09 or so DBS and save $60k
5) 991TT
6) 06 Murci
4) Wait for Alpha 4C but I think it won't be 6spd. Not enough power to be only pedals if you ask me...
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I like the mclaren and the prices are much better now that the 650 is out. The other cars I would look at would be 991 gt3, f430 scud, 2015 z06 (650hp/650 tq), and SLS MB. I would go for a 458 coupe if the price point was a little higher. I would steer away from the Astons, because they are too similar to the jag.
If I was in the market right now I would get a new gt3. People are getting their cars back now from the engine swaps- the reviews and videos I have seen are amazing- revving to 9 k rpm and the pdk-s are great.
If u like the 12c, go for it. It's a good buy now and an amazing car!
If I was in the market right now I would get a new gt3. People are getting their cars back now from the engine swaps- the reviews and videos I have seen are amazing- revving to 9 k rpm and the pdk-s are great.
If u like the 12c, go for it. It's a good buy now and an amazing car!
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Hey Gang,
I have been seriously looking at getting a 12C. Initially I wanted a 6spd only and was looking hard at a 14 LP560-2 which could be the absolute last of the manual Lambo's. Then I drove a 12C and was floored by its performance mixed with refinement.
It is like it is from another planet. The shifts, the ride and the warp speed. Wow. The DCT does feel like a proper manual cause it is. I may slightly miss the 3rd pedal but the rest of the package is beyond good. Also, they were nearly $300k well spec'd and can be had for $170k-$200k. Depreciation will likely slow if not flatten.
I was initially thinking DBS 6spd or Vantage V12 but begin thinking they are still too much like my XKR - long nose sleek GT's (albeit prettier). To the average person they aren't very different.
Anyone else driven a 12C? How would you spend $180k if that much budget for a single car?
1) 12C
2) Gallardo
3) Vantage V12
4) 09 or so DBS and save $60k
5) 991TT
6) 06 Murci
4) Wait for Alpha 4C but I think it won't be 6spd. Not enough power to be only pedals if you ask me...
I have been seriously looking at getting a 12C. Initially I wanted a 6spd only and was looking hard at a 14 LP560-2 which could be the absolute last of the manual Lambo's. Then I drove a 12C and was floored by its performance mixed with refinement.
It is like it is from another planet. The shifts, the ride and the warp speed. Wow. The DCT does feel like a proper manual cause it is. I may slightly miss the 3rd pedal but the rest of the package is beyond good. Also, they were nearly $300k well spec'd and can be had for $170k-$200k. Depreciation will likely slow if not flatten.
I was initially thinking DBS 6spd or Vantage V12 but begin thinking they are still too much like my XKR - long nose sleek GT's (albeit prettier). To the average person they aren't very different.
Anyone else driven a 12C? How would you spend $180k if that much budget for a single car?
1) 12C
2) Gallardo
3) Vantage V12
4) 09 or so DBS and save $60k
5) 991TT
6) 06 Murci
4) Wait for Alpha 4C but I think it won't be 6spd. Not enough power to be only pedals if you ask me...
Are you looking for refinement? Performance? what is your criteria? If you are in a position to spend that kind of money then you REALLY need to take a hard look at the 458. It is not going to be as fast but is a far more exciting car to drive and unless you're the stig on a track you'll never notive the difference with the 12C. Anything at that level os going to be amazing. Nothing better really... just merely different.
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McLaren should be much better maintenance-wise over a Ferrari 458 as well as resale especially if it is driven any miles. Make sure you look at the later years as they made significant improvements in the software that were plaguing the cars. MC's are amazing cars!
Regarding getting a XKR-S GT... there little "exclusivity" as the majority of people will think it's only an XK that some Asian turned into a "boy-racer". Same goes for all the 911 models, few really know the difference from a base model to a turbo, etc.
Alpha 4c looks like a base model Lotus done wrong= ewwww.
Regarding getting a XKR-S GT... there little "exclusivity" as the majority of people will think it's only an XK that some Asian turned into a "boy-racer". Same goes for all the 911 models, few really know the difference from a base model to a turbo, etc.
Alpha 4c looks like a base model Lotus done wrong= ewwww.
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Can't speak for the the performance or refinement, but I just can't warm up to the McLaren's looks. It just wouldn't please me aesthetically to walk out to it each day. Same with any Lambo, they all look like kit cars, except for the Miura and the Diablo. So, what does that leave, either the Porsche or the Ferrari. I vote Ferrari.
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Hey Gang,
I have been seriously looking at getting a 12C. Initially I wanted a 6spd only and was looking hard at a 14 LP560-2 which could be the absolute last of the manual Lambo's. Then I drove a 12C and was floored by its performance mixed with refinement.
It is like it is from another planet. The shifts, the ride and the warp speed. Wow. The DCT does feel like a proper manual cause it is. I may slightly miss the 3rd pedal but the rest of the package is beyond good. Also, they were nearly $300k well spec'd and can be had for $170k-$200k. Depreciation will likely slow if not flatten.
I was initially thinking DBS 6spd or Vantage V12 but begin thinking they are still too much like my XKR - long nose sleek GT's (albeit prettier). To the average person they aren't very different.
Anyone else driven a 12C? How would you spend $180k if that much budget for a single car?
1) 12C
2) Gallardo
3) Vantage V12
4) 09 or so DBS and save $60k
5) 991TT
6) 06 Murci
4) Wait for Alpha 4C but I think it won't be 6spd. Not enough power to be only pedals if you ask me...
I have been seriously looking at getting a 12C. Initially I wanted a 6spd only and was looking hard at a 14 LP560-2 which could be the absolute last of the manual Lambo's. Then I drove a 12C and was floored by its performance mixed with refinement.
It is like it is from another planet. The shifts, the ride and the warp speed. Wow. The DCT does feel like a proper manual cause it is. I may slightly miss the 3rd pedal but the rest of the package is beyond good. Also, they were nearly $300k well spec'd and can be had for $170k-$200k. Depreciation will likely slow if not flatten.
I was initially thinking DBS 6spd or Vantage V12 but begin thinking they are still too much like my XKR - long nose sleek GT's (albeit prettier). To the average person they aren't very different.
Anyone else driven a 12C? How would you spend $180k if that much budget for a single car?
1) 12C
2) Gallardo
3) Vantage V12
4) 09 or so DBS and save $60k
5) 991TT
6) 06 Murci
4) Wait for Alpha 4C but I think it won't be 6spd. Not enough power to be only pedals if you ask me...
What are you looking for? Is the XKR staying or going? If staying, the 991TT, Vantage, and DBS seem a bit redundant to me. If going, I would get the DBS Volant with a clutch pedal. In fact, that is what I intend to do in the future.
What is the purpose of the car? Track car, get the 12C. I have followed one on the track (until the instructor riding with the owner took over the wheel - then I got lapped at a high rate of speed!) and it is one heck of a car. But, there is one in my neighborhood that I see weekly and it just isn't that pretty on the street. Likewise, the Murci and Gallardo just don't do it for me. Hence, my comment above. If you are going for the supercar in that price range, the Ford GT is the winner for me. It is beautiful, rare, and not ostentatious on the level of the others. Not the fastest, but unless you are tracking, who cares?
I used to be all about form over function but find myself more and more captured by the beauty of cars and less concerned with the numbers. At the end of the day, all the cars in this range should keep you happy on the street performance wise.
Alpha 4C just can't get me excited without a clutch pedal and seems outclassed by all the others.
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Tberg and Caviar you both lost me when you said you either can't warm to or don't like the 12C or Murci or Gallardo. While I like the long nose coupe look (owned Viper GTS, 2 M Coupes, XKR, etc) these three look quite good - particularly lowered on wheels. The 12C especially transforms when lowered on wheels - kinda like my NSX's. From just ok exotic - yawn - to down right stupendous when lowered. Very imposing from all angles. I think its their simple organic shape that makes them seem boring but also what makes them leapfrog others with proper stance. Then the doors go up to boot! It's tidy proportions have really grown on me. The one thing I would change is the double air scoop on side. Notice how much cleaner the 2nd orange pic looks when the scoop doesn't look as "double" at that angle. I would prob wrap it matte black to look like an empty scoop.
Did I mention it throws flames when you get on it. Awesome looking at night as you drive off.
Did I mention it throws flames when you get on it. Awesome looking at night as you drive off.
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Sorry, I just don't like the front end, the rear end, or the side flanks, (what's left). I love Caviar's idea of a Ford GT, find a Hennesy modified one and you can have over 1000 hp. I think the Ford GT is simple, elegant, spectacular! Then again, you coud buy 2 or 3 perfectly restored Panteras, one for street use and the other ready for the track. Jay Leno just bought one.
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These are beautiful cars, absolutely stunning. Very few people have the affordability to own one of these awesome automobiles. If you can afford to buy it, maintain it, then I would go for it. To many this car is only a dream.
Kept in top shape, this car will always maintain a good value. I can't see the depreciation factor anywhere near that of the Jaguar brand.
It sounds like it can become reality for you.
You only live once, enjoy- buy the McLaren.
Kept in top shape, this car will always maintain a good value. I can't see the depreciation factor anywhere near that of the Jaguar brand.
It sounds like it can become reality for you.
You only live once, enjoy- buy the McLaren.
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The McLaren is so much more advanced than any other performance car on the road today. It makes the Nissan GT-R, which I owned, look 10 years older. The McLaren out performs the GT-R on the track and it's a street friendly city car. The GT-R is noisy, unrefined, has cheap interior, chatters, and when parking moves and sounds like a tank. The McLaren is light years ahead of any other car today for the price including Ferrari 458 and the new Gallardo. The McLaren stands it a generation of performance cars my itself. It is the ultimate sports car!
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Sounds like your mind is made up on the 12C. If so, enjoy. We forget that so much of this is subjective and in the eyes of the beholder. People bought the Aztec after all - and I am in no way comparing the two! Fortunately there is a wide selection to suit everyone's tastes and sensibilities. We truly have an over abundance of fantastic choices to choose from.
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